From rick@openfortress.nl Sat Jun 13 04:37:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: conserver-users@localhost Delivered-To: conserver-users@localhost Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAE04A5A2 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ziggybow.stansell.org Received: from ziggybow.stansell.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ziggybow.stansell.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MljIzeMZjDQH for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=194.109.24.26; helo=lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net; envelope-from=rick@openfortress.nl; receiver= Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7077943A58 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from popmini.vanrein.org ([IPv6:2001:980:93a5:1::7]) by smtp-cloud9.xs4all.net with ESMTP id jxvJjrjFoK7ldjxvKjOgpI; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 06:37:42 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=openfortress.nl; i=rick@openfortress.nl; q=dns/txt; s=fame; t=1592023061; h=message-id : date : from : mime-version : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : date : from : subject; bh=MKca+qjmUi7YM74uc9yAMveA9TjQDXZ+PGsjoC4QI0o=; b=myWt6C4UYK7GUw/JQrQNu/RENg+vBmwCpgisyB9Eov+Hm0flFT37wLje trtUHTC8CqhcXkJqOgg4tQZsvl4uM06f8NrvhYJwkGIexojT9LGS3UiME3 xBDeyN5EaDC8q6qPwPUu8iQM3Vy7Q8K/izH4w6m0zkzc32u0/CkP1F7Ic= Received: by fame.vanrein.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 9F2C83D534; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: users@conserver.com Received: from airhead.fritz.box (phantom.vanrein.org [83.161.146.46]) by fame.vanrein.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6DE543D535; Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5EE457FE.3070600@openfortress.nl> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 06:37:18 +0200 From: Rick van Rein User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.11 (Macintosh/20140602) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Subject: Using conserver for container TTYs X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Unsure, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.520000, version=1.2.4 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKbbBJvqVFofkLn+q8DZZAieaJO/MXDsGHS9rZMWCzILA84M2BSY+mZZb8DOWi7x6EonfPOApcW2OmxSZau2Py1oIfHZdQC4CO0CrBXcb8fAtfpX3s2x nrc0jsrmUYEtfsj4Mwe2s+wm+sOkfkYz9vhN6Whf2Ipc4QYzPOKMli74J6K9+sTF4w0XNgsQzH8i7Q== X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 04:37:46 -0000 Hi, Thanks for conserver! I have long been looking for a program of this kind, having seen it long ago, but somehow never found it. I am considering it as a possible pool and collector for the many virtual TTYs that come up in a container environment. Have you considered that possibility? This is moving away from Docker to the Open Containers Initiative, for which RunC is the most developed driver program. It directs TTYs to a (rather clumsy, demo-style) program RecvTTY. The TTY is passed as a file descriptor over a UNIX Domain socket as ancillary data. Would it be a proper use case for conserver to pickup such incoming file descriptors and setup a terminal session for it? Curious, -Rick From bryan@conserver.com Sun Jun 14 23:35:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: conserver-users@localhost Delivered-To: conserver-users@localhost Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4446B4A5B7; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ziggybow.stansell.org Received: from ziggybow.stansell.org ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (ziggybow.stansell.org [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GRe7IR0JtGff; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (unknown [76.14.25.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bryan@stansell.org) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E63C43A58; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:35:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=conserver.com; s=s0001; t=1592177742; bh=0woXjGjy7ArEqiLBt+sKcBZcR3L/RRIqfTnZzV5yvIc=; h=From:Subject:To; b=OAcHK1V5Og0uSHjtFAP0wDHKbM5DyhFl6J3L7hY433mXtnZrTVWquydZC+CJ332gX mP6oyAoOxW/wJNW6cyxa0VYO9FH8zAVWOHKILb/KL3cbRVwkuSsHD3m3tOXF4ogLil wo0RfMA+50OzcVDEVgorX3BDI/9WbomaQUP9tRxB4EETbhAM7lMtcqVY7QWArAw+9V 9G39CF2gwa96CnxnbcTUzLFBV0nqSjLITX9dQ0OYnr5dfcHhnn4fNSkFGL6xeOyQS0 kruNkbEl4ocd4Do+a23XTKeWPyJR7JK5qBv5BVFASOZFhohMa+Iqt5ZIynr5iruSDc lT56ZrDSJ+8Dw== X-SES-CONFIGURATION-SET: logging From: Bryan Stansell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: GitHub repository moved from conserver/conserver to bstansell/conserver Message-Id: <21CBC866-BF34-4630-A5C9-696A8491074E@conserver.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 16:35:41 -0700 To: Conserver Announce , Conserver Users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:35:43 -0000 This shouldn=E2=80=99t cause anyone issues (as GitHub issues redirects = to the new location), but I figured I=E2=80=99d call it out. I had = =E2=80=9Cchosen poorly=E2=80=9D when deciding to use multiple accounts = for my email addresses. Now things go through one account, as GitHub = suggests. The =E2=80=98conserver=E2=80=99 GitHub identity still exists, = but it's really just a shell to hold onto the name in GitHub. Some folks might want to update pointers, remotes, and such, hence the = announcement. Bryan= From pabs3@bonedaddy.net Mon Jun 15 00:26:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: conserver-users@localhost Delivered-To: conserver-users@localhost Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE2D4A5B7 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:26:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ziggybow.stansell.org Received: from ziggybow.stansell.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ziggybow.stansell.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id orcpoyyojmGK for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=45.33.94.42; helo=smtp.bonedaddy.net; envelope-from=pabs3@bonedaddy.net; receiver= Received: from smtp.bonedaddy.net (smtp.bonedaddy.net [45.33.94.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D999343A58 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chianamo (n58-108-42-10.per1.wa.optusnet.com.au [58.108.42.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pabs3@bonedaddy.net) by smtp.bonedaddy.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE1E2180031 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: smtp.bonedaddy.net; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=bonedaddy.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bonedaddy.net; s=mail; t=1592180770; bh=BLiHPdHtySFpMNhGNevmY3UBhehxYsONJRxNygVFOHQ=; h=Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=io+DGiC8lHQl77q3rgMGMfKYdF5czqXngVR0Hlj6zCcjykrUKnq2oL5XpgWk6+LnJ zmq1U3H16ICmegufquEU4Vz+Sun7NX0eoaUEfxnBWzag5XeO9vGMD3+9z7NHTX9L4U 4rjIVkODbMB+y3crl4DkHZChigiqVLwIyGERxoWclyuf5j3NL0QiDOC7QWsWCU8qhC DnWuEvLbXay4OURFEwnfgJL8TyBmWEAS5crxI100MduZvhB6/m8DLy9wc1AwTx22Ci mgpJ1qUy7L0LAkzq7AHW9GhmQCThGzN+QGvzB/A155hGqdzKbWUutdlLa7a9O7EKuz V8T7OTm9ohntw== Message-ID: Subject: Re: GitHub repository moved from conserver/conserver to bstansell/conserver From: Paul Wise To: users@conserver.com In-Reply-To: <01010172b5307ba8-86cc6319-0b8e-4dfa-a088-a6a3a520ef44-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> References: <01010172b5307ba8-86cc6319-0b8e-4dfa-a088-a6a3a520ef44-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7b2zy4fJZILE+6MNFFNA" Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:25:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.3-1 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:26:05 -0000 --=-7b2zy4fJZILE+6MNFFNA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 23:35 +0000, Bryan Stansell via users wrote: > GitHub repository moved from conserver/conserver to bstansell/conserver TBH I think the old location was the correct one, but that is because I had assumed @conserver was a github organisation. Have you considered making it an org and moving the repo back to it? Then you could have multiple committers/admins. --=20 bye, pabs https://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ --=-7b2zy4fJZILE+6MNFFNA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEYQsotVz8/kXqG1Y7MRa6Xp/6aaMFAl7mwBYACgkQMRa6Xp/6 aaO+eRAAuDvjjpX/cd1EQ+oCTsqsWZ4GE/yNf79ng1VsctToRS+4axpdlXasQXrG 7jU6NV4BuO6jLH73VNe3JE1j/0foaLx0gPo8PlhwnpsGDpP665WEAQ3yZe/wcDQd 68g4SKX9SuagsFMotAvfSs6LMfgXtEm0x4ACoWcm2trxxC1Kkk/Wf1So8wv+JKmc ymw355dD4vOvEjVbO/2LQHqEY+XZyWuc6cyPc+A4YQfmW3DmvWPlW2ONPiS85ZCk b8fX2++/Y15T/tImmrnBVxSRYZb2Q2ak+PzrVuhYs8r8fxSTsfxJxTAidiahEpms lwWtYFeSXdI0AOoGq5gTPlpJeJJ8u0w4D1+KXANokkHRrtJxJ4SoVNH2fz/pZ6rV krfZyfb+2DGt20ZyjgCh5Ppx3LY+8tAVS2UWIhnyyrV+6rk4R+FJnpjC8KiIXkNL 3DNUmPl9gYkLvrsdn28sUIlyWA98FE7SpAG2S5g4yKlaxjck3ZBt1goOzAlA/94v I1Afpa8Y9NBhRFSw8BKyjpFIl0GSa54nV2TqQbQhj0G6e3gznAfQIaL1hnLkb/hV KGeBcAcfgBHDGeOWDqYM26xY+RxGEFy+mmsVnaTg3cicdw2YCnrpL5pVLAjnU7Pl cJHVgVhnLGoU8tyTW8HTPOLqPwEzE/fCgvcI99IyrvcHUO3ycdU= =eVrb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7b2zy4fJZILE+6MNFFNA-- From wernli@in2p3.fr Mon Jun 15 08:14:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: conserver-users@localhost Delivered-To: conserver-users@localhost Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B154243F70 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:14:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ziggybow.stansell.org Received: from ziggybow.stansell.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ziggybow.stansell.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nHNkvguEmTew for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=134.158.66.156; helo=cczrelay01.in2p3.fr; envelope-from=wernli@in2p3.fr; receiver= Received: from cczrelay01.in2p3.fr (cczrelay06.in2p3.fr [134.158.66.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF5CB43A6F for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccfawe.in2p3.fr (ccvpnr205.in2p3.fr [134.158.230.205]) by cczrelay01.in2p3.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id 05F8Dxw0022200; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:14:00 +0200 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.3 at cczrelay01 Received: by ccfawe.in2p3.fr (Postfix, from userid 3942) id 9454340; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:13:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:13:59 +0200 From: Fabien Wernli To: Rick van Rein Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Using conserver for container TTYs Message-ID: <20200615081359.GB6956@ccfawe.in2p3.fr> Reply-To: wernli@in2p3.fr Mail-Followup-To: Rick van Rein , users@conserver.com References: <01010172abf8512e-6de26a3d-4488-4d82-8329-8fb94ef2f37d-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01010172abf8512e-6de26a3d-4488-4d82-8329-8fb94ef2f37d-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com> Organization: CC-IN2P3 (CNRS) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:14:04 -0000 Hi, On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 04:37:57AM +0000, Conserver Users's Mailing List wrote: > Would it be a proper use case for conserver to pickup such incoming file > descriptors and setup a terminal session for it? Sounds like a very interesting use-case. However, I fail to see the advantage of being able to write to the consoles, as containers are 99% of the time used to run unattended applications, in which case centralised logging makes more sense.