From openlinuxsource@gmail.com Wed Sep 1 06:32:06 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com (mail-ww0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o816VxUj024367 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 06:32:06 GMT Received: by wwb18 with SMTP id 18so5204373wwb.27 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:31:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U0FyGCCsgFKNUa7bIQ9ZqzSYWBTvL4ZyKwIukMcbQMI=; b=A2HHZ2EVBRHF10EiocClHoZOAfEzf9CG3vQbbvlO4CCI1zmCHGDj7g6RfAJbQzi3+i 3DL4k+TeaYgoNd67jC5R1qI06Q23B+8NVLjbVxIcgcxQgxTDeo7qFnpWdxMlGko9Oa+8 hd9KTrpbQ9Y/NrF+028tMKUfaZRYxdKpAYrPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dXwqXmJp3G0P7HWJGFhvrt/VS1IKPtfwPOv2meGyke/cbtZQu+mzSiyMEbR7Dirv4W RNOOM0EeobT1hE2Ubgh0IMHDmArjm94wSZF3dTXNVsY4xXEABLg8pHmUxP2Vyrahgorp ZHe5uiSy+ya5PKmcyVSFGIARhjwiXEKskbWFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.208 with SMTP id e16mr7420989wbv.164.1283322718833; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.136.90 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:31:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:31:58 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help: Basic setting up and requirements From: Lee Eric To: Zonker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 1.242 (*) BAYES_00,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id o816VxUj024367 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:32:06 -0000 Thanks, mate. So obviously I have to use a terminal server like a Cyclades or a serial multiplexer. That indicates it's impossible just put PCs/Servers into a LAN then using conserver directly, right? Regards, Eric On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Zonker wrote: >   Hi Lee, > >   Nate has offered one good configuration, which is based on a common > implementation that will scale well up to very large sites. (Cheers, Nate! > :-) But, the roots of Conserver allowed the conserver host to have > multi-UART serial boards in the Conserver server, and that may be a cheaper > model for you to start. > >   You can get some more basic information from a couple older tutorials that > I have posted at http://www.conserver.com/consoles/Training/published.html > Specifically, take a look at the basic tutorial from LISA 2002 > (http://www.conserver.com/consoles/Training/LISA2002-T9.PDF) or the Bay-LISA > talk (http://www.conserver.com/consoles/Training/BayLISA-consoles.ppt). > >   Nate's reply presumes that server X and the others are all some variant of > Linux/UNIX. Is that true in your example? (If servers A, B, and C are some > variant of Windows, for example, the newer machines do allow some monitoring > of the boot process using "serial console redirection" settings in the BIOS, > and some servers (ex: HP, Dell, Rackable) have Service Processors (*LOM) > which even allow you to remotely reset the server, or command the power on > and off... so, Conserver can even help with Windows servers as well.) > >       Best regards, > >              -Z- > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Lee Eric wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm a newbie at conserver. I have several PCs and servers need to >> manage and I don't know if conserver can help me. I read the basic.cf >> for beginning but I think there are some concepts I may miss. So I got >> some questions here. >> >> 1. What equipment do I need to use conserver to manage them? Every >> machine has a console port, but nothing connected. >> 2. Does conserver can use LAN to manage machines using console? >> 3. What configurations need to set up for machines including BIOS and >> OS? My OS is Fedora 12. >> >> So let me show the environment I have. There are 4 machines. >> A(192.168.1.1), B(192.168.1.2), C(192.168.1.3), X(192.168.1.10). So A, >> B, C will be clients, X is the server which is running conserver. They >> are just connected with a switch, they are all have console ports as >> well. But console ports are nothing connected. >> >> My question is can I use conserver to view the console information of >> each client? If yes, can anyone show me a basic configuration example? >> >> Thanks very much. >> >> Regards, >> >> Eric >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> users@conserver.com >> https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > -- > ConsoleTeam - Support and training services for Conserver users. > www.conserver.com/consoles/ > consoleteam.blogspot.com > From Andras.Horvath@cern.ch Wed Sep 1 07:49:29 2010 Received: from CERNMX31.cern.ch (cernmx31.cern.ch [137.138.144.179]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o817nMQv021582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 07:49:29 GMT Received: from CERNFE20.cern.ch (137.138.144.155) by cernmxgwlb2.cern.ch (137.138.144.179) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.694.0; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:49:15 +0200 Received: from [137.138.33.142] (137.138.33.142) by smtp.cern.ch (137.138.144.172) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.0.702.0; Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:49:15 +0200 Message-ID: <4C7E0575.1090304@cern.ch> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:49:09 +0200 From: Andras HORVATH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100713 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: Help: Basic setting up and requirements References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: CERN SpamKiller Note: -50 X-Spam-Score: 3.555 (***) BAYES_50,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:49:29 -0000 On 09/01/2010 08:31 AM, Lee Eric wrote: > Thanks, mate. So obviously I have to use a terminal server like a > Cyclades or a serial multiplexer. That indicates it's impossible just > put PCs/Servers into a LAN then using conserver directly, right? Impossible unless your PCs have a management module like an IPMI BMC or some proprietary *LOM, as others have pointed out. Most server motherboards these days come with a BMC, but it may need some work (new firmware, for instance) to get it working. Try running 'ipmitool sdr' from the host itself to see if you have one. :) I run a large setup based on ipmitool and IPMI SOL using conserver and no extra hardware elements (IPMI even goes through the main network interface so we don't have a management LAN for this.) You can find the wrapper script I use for ipmitool and config file examples here: http://cern.ch/ahorvath/rpms/conserver/ipmi/ HTH, Andras -- Andras HORVATH Systems engineer, CERN CF FPP Tel: +41 22 767 4290 // Fax: +41 22 766 9154