From Andy.Pearce@austrocontrol.at Fri Jan 15 14:59:13 2010 Received: from mail57.messagelabs.com (mail57.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.115]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id o0FEx58D001329 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:59:12 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Andy.Pearce@austrocontrol.at X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-57.messagelabs.com!1263567544!26568004!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.4; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [193.81.1.132] Received: (qmail 18679 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2010 14:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy1.austrocontrol.at) (193.81.1.132) by server-15.tower-57.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2010 14:59:04 -0000 Received: from proxy1.austrocontrol.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proxy1.austrocontrol.at (8.12.11/8.12.11/deliver) with ESMTP id o0FEwrh5019339 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:58:53 GMT Received: from exchsrv1 (exchngn1.lowl.austrocontrol.at [193.80.134.101]) by proxy1.austrocontrol.at (8.12.11/8.12.11/to IMSS) with ESMTP id o0FEwjg6019292 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:58:51 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Conserver usage/reliability Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Conserver usage/reliability Thread-Index: AcqV8zw6czrpLcYXRUCXTCJoxlaiGw== From: "Pearce Andy" To: X-Spam-Score: 2.444 (**) BAYES_05,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id o0FEx58D001329 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:59:13 -0000 Hi All, I am currently proposing the use of Conserver as the replacement product for an old UNIX ConsoleManager product. To do this I would like to get a feeling as to the size of Conservers user base and its reliability. If you are in a company that uses the product it would be great if you could reply with company name and a rough number of machines supported ( via single server or multi server etc), and how reliable you have found it. Many thanks Andy Pearce From andras.horvath@cern.ch Fri Jan 15 15:18:44 2010 Received: from cernmx20.cern.ch (cernmx20.cern.ch [137.138.166.184]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o0FFIbp1002395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:18:43 GMT Received: from pcitadc01.cern.ch (137.138.33.142) by cernmxlb.cern.ch (137.138.166.163) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:33 +0100 Received: by pcitadc01.cern.ch (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C60314DC208; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:33 +0100 From: To: Subject: Re: Conserver usage/reliability Message-ID: <20100115151832.GA3980@cern.ch> Mail-Followup-To: users@conserver.com References: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: 2.814 (**) BAYES_20,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:18:44 -0000 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:58:45PM +0100, Pearce Andy wrote: > > If you are in a company that uses the product it would be great > if you could reply with company name and a rough number of machines > supported ( via single server or multi server etc), and how reliable > you have found it. CERN IT here, and we're just deploying conserver. We use ipmitool to access IPMI SOL consoles, with 2-300 clients per server. We've started using conserver for all new installations just recently, so only five servers with about 900 client machines are deployed so far, but we'll quickly be in the few thousand clients range later this year. So far so good, it looks pretty stable. *fingers crossed* N.B. we use external means (our configuration database) to keep track of which client is connected to which server, and users connect to the server in question directly. HTH Andras From wernli@in2p3.fr Fri Jan 15 15:34:25 2010 Received: from ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr [134.158.66.51]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o0FFYIWZ002591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:34:25 GMT Received: from ccswiss.in2p3.fr (ccswissrp.in2p3.fr [134.158.71.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/IN2P3) with ESMTP id o0FFYHeZ011373 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:34:17 +0100 Received: by ccswiss.in2p3.fr (Postfix, from userid 3942) id 1AAEFC14F; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:34:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:34:17 +0100 From: Fabien Wernli To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver usage/reliability Message-ID: <20100115153416.GD32007@ccswiss.in2p3.fr> Mail-Followup-To: users@conserver.com References: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> Organization: CC-IN2P3 (CNRS) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: 1.242 (*) BAYES_00,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: wernli@in2p3.fr List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:34:25 -0000 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:58:45PM +0100, Pearce Andy wrote: > If you are in a company that uses the product it would be great > if you could reply with company name and a rough number of machines > supported ( via single server or multi server etc), and how reliable > you have found it. CCIN2P3, 2379 consoles, (2 servers holding most of these) 3 years in production, no problems go for it! From john@iastate.edu Fri Jan 15 15:44:39 2010 Received: from mailhub-5.iastate.edu (mailhub-5.iastate.edu [129.186.140.15]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o0FFiXp5002749 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:44:39 GMT Received: from devirus-10.iastate.edu (devirus-10.iastate.edu [129.186.1.47]) by mailhub-5.iastate.edu (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.10) with SMTP id o0FFiXmA031717 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:44:33 -0600 Received: from (despam-11.iastate.edu [129.186.140.81]) by devirus-10.iastate.edu with smtp id 6a89_e04cdfe2_01ec_11df_8ecf_00137253420a; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:44:32 -0600 Received: from malison.ait.iastate.edu (malison.ait.iastate.edu [129.186.145.229]) by despam-11.iastate.edu (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.10) with ESMTP id o0FFiWfV024408 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:44:32 -0600 Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by malison.ait.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04712 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:44:32 -0600 (CST) To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver usage/reliability In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:58:45 +0100. <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:44:31 CST Message-ID: <5077.1263570271@malison.ait.iastate.edu> From: John Hascall X-PMX-Version: 5.5.3.366731, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.0.366912, Antispam-Data: 2010.1.15.153618 X-ISUMailhub-test: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=10%, Report='AT_TLD 0.5, BODY_SIZE_1700_1799 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, TO_NO_NAME 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0' X-Spam-Score: 1.242 (*) BAYES_00,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:44:39 -0000 "Pearce Andy" asks: > I am currently proposing the use of Conserver as the replacement > product for an old UNIX ConsoleManager product. To do this I would > like to get a feeling as to the size of Conservers user base and > its reliability. > > If you are in a company that uses the product it would be great > if you could reply with company name and a rough number of machines > supported ( via single server or multi server etc), and how reliable > you have found it. He have used conserver for a very long time (~15 years) and have found it to be very reliable. We have used it in both single and multi-server arrangements. Our main conserver has about 500 servers connected to it at present. Something like this: [client] | ------ campus-net---+------+--- | [eth0] [conserver]---usb--[usb2serial] [eth1] ______/ / \ | / / \ | [c1] [c2] ... [cN]---serial---[server] (isolated) | | | | ---- console-net------+---+-----+---...----+--- where c1, c2, ... cN are 48 port cyclades terminal servers (whose own consoles are served via a usb2serial box) We would like to start using IPMI SOL instead of terminal servers where possible. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hascall, john@iastate.edu Team Lead, NIADS (Network Infrastructure, Authentication & Directory Services) IT Services, The Iowa State University of Science and Technology From gdolley@arpnetworks.com Fri Jan 15 23:11:19 2010 Received: from mail.arpnetworks.com (mail.arpnetworks.com [208.79.88.12]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id o0FNBD8x015480 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:11:19 GMT Received: (qmail 4792 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2010 23:07:44 -0000 Received: from iron.arpnetworks.com (HELO garry-thinkpad.arpnetworks.com) (gdolley@arpnetworks.com@208.79.88.31) by mail.arpnetworks.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2010 23:07:44 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:11:13 -0800 From: Garry Dolley To: Pearce Andy Subject: Re: Conserver usage/reliability Message-ID: <20100115231113.GD1233@garry-thinkpad.arpnetworks.com> References: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <09344F86CC53BE4EA61557124E79A56F06816DEA@EXCHSRV1.win.austrocontrol.at> X-PGP-Key: http://scie.nti.st/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3E04 03B3 25A7 E078 EAEB 9590 76C1 5E41 DDA2 B810 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Spam-Score: 1.242 (*) BAYES_00,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:11:19 -0000 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 03:58:45PM +0100, Pearce Andy wrote: > Hi All, > > I am currently proposing the use of Conserver as the replacement > product for an old UNIX ConsoleManager product. To do this I would > like to get a feeling as to the size of Conservers user base and > its reliability. > > If you are in a company that uses the product it would be great > if you could reply with company name and a rough number of machines > supported ( via single server or multi server etc), and how reliable > you have found it. We have 5 servers running conserver, each exports about 30 consoles that belong to virtual machines running on the host. One client is used to access them. No problems so far. -- Garry Dolley ARP Networks, Inc. | http://www.arpnetworks.com | (818) 206-0181 Data center, VPS, and IP Transit solutions Member Los Angeles County REACT, Unit 336 | WQGK336 Blog http://scie.nti.st