From lsc@prgmr.com Tue Dec 1 00:11:07 2009 Received: from luke.xen.prgmr.com (luke.xen.prgmr.com [38.99.2.47]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB10B1Yc014176 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:11:07 GMT Received: by luke.xen.prgmr.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id B88F610441F; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:11:27 -0500 (EST) To: Bjorn Helgaas Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver References: <200911301623.16850.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> From: Luke S Crawford Date: 30 Nov 2009 19:11:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200911301623.16850.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:11:07 -0000 Bjorn Helgaas writes: > I'd really like to be able to use a conserver escape sequence to > reset or power cycle a system, for example, by using PowerMan. > Having this ability inside conserver would be handy because it > would automatically target the correct machine and reduce the need > to exit/re-enter "console". > > Is there a way to do this in conserver? Would this be useful to > anybody else? Now, I soppose my use case is a little different from most people's... but I have mutually untrusting users on my system, so I need to be more concerned about security than perhaps some of you do, who have the conserver on the 'trusted network' (not that I really believe in such things.) I try to keep my rebooters and my serial consoles on different security systems (not sharing passwords; using ssh public keys or otherwise setting it up so that even if one system is compromised, the other is not. I try to run them on different operating systems, too.) That way, so long as people set root passwords (and I disable magic sysrq) even if you compromise my console system, you don't immediately have root on all my servers; you at least have to wait for someone to login as root (and in my system, we've got different root passwords; my console system handles servers owned by different people.) if you break into my rebooter system, well, you can cause havoc by rebooting everything, but you don't have access to the data unless you also break into the console system. (If you have both, really, it's all over. Everything is compromised.) -- Luke S. Crawford http://prgmr.com/xen/ - Hosting for the technically adept http://nostarch.com/xen.htm - We don't assume you are stupid. From bjorn.helgaas@hp.com Tue Dec 1 20:47:07 2009 Received: from g1t0028.austin.hp.com (g1t0028.austin.hp.com [15.216.28.35]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1Kl16L029412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:47:07 GMT Received: from g1t0039.austin.hp.com (g1t0039.austin.hp.com [16.236.32.45]) by g1t0028.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF881C181; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ldl (linux.corp.hp.com [15.11.146.101]) by g1t0039.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F2934112; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF1CCF000A; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from ldl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zSiOl0uLHz72; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from tigger.helgaas (lart.fc.hp.com [15.11.146.31]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2115CF0007; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:11 -0700 (MST) From: Bjorn Helgaas To: Luke S Crawford Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:45:10 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200911301623.16850.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912011345.11067.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:47:08 -0000 On Monday 30 November 2009 05:11:26 pm Luke S Crawford wrote: > Bjorn Helgaas writes: > > > I'd really like to be able to use a conserver escape sequence to > > reset or power cycle a system, for example, by using PowerMan. > > Having this ability inside conserver would be handy because it > > would automatically target the correct machine and reduce the need > > to exit/re-enter "console". > > > > Is there a way to do this in conserver? Would this be useful to > > anybody else? > > Now, I soppose my use case is a little different from most people's... > but I have mutually untrusting users on my system, so I need to be more > concerned about security than perhaps some of you do, who have the > conserver on the 'trusted network' (not that I really believe in > such things.) > > I try to keep my rebooters and my serial consoles on different security > systems (not sharing passwords; using ssh public keys or otherwise > setting it up so that even if one system is compromised, the other is not. > I try to run them on different operating systems, too.) > > That way, so long as people set root passwords (and I disable magic sysrq) > even if you compromise my console system, you don't immediately have root on > all my servers; you at least have to wait for someone to login > as root (and in my system, we've got different root passwords; my > console system handles servers owned by different people.) > > if you break into my rebooter system, well, you can cause havoc by rebooting > everything, but you don't have access to the data unless you also > break into the console system. (If you have both, really, it's all over. > Everything is compromised.) I think the summary of this is "I wouldn't use this feature, and here's why." Right? My use case *is* different: I have dozens of development machines shared among trusted users. One nuisance is that somebody intends to reset A but mistakenly resets B instead. Being able to do the reset directly from conserver would reduce the likelihood of this. Bjorn From john@iastate.edu Tue Dec 1 20:55:24 2009 Received: from mailhub-5.iastate.edu (mailhub-5.iastate.edu [129.186.140.15]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1KtIu7029548 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:55:23 GMT Received: from devirus-10.iastate.edu (devirus-10.iastate.edu [129.186.1.47]) by mailhub-5.iastate.edu (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.10) with SMTP id nB1KtHax029648 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:55:17 -0600 Received: from (despam-10.iastate.edu [129.186.140.80]) by devirus-10.iastate.edu with smtp id 5dbe_d4e1306c_debb_11de_9f87_00137253420a; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:55:17 -0600 Received: from malison.ait.iastate.edu (malison.ait.iastate.edu [129.186.145.229]) by despam-10.iastate.edu (8.14.2/8.12.10) with ESMTP id nB1KtGsF010720 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:55:16 -0600 Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by malison.ait.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08788 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:55:17 -0600 (CST) To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:45:10 -0700. <200912011345.11067.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:55:17 CST Message-ID: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> From: John Hascall X-PMX-Version: 5.5.3.366731, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.0.366912, Antispam-Data: 2009.12.1.204216 X-ISUMailhub-test: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_500_599 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, TO_NO_NAME 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0' X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:55:24 -0000 > My use case *is* different: I have dozens of development machines > shared among trusted users. One nuisance is that somebody intends > to reset A but mistakenly resets B instead. Being able to do the > reset directly from conserver would reduce the likelihood of this. We too would find this highly useful. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hascall, john@iastate.edu Team Lead, NIADS (Network Infrastructure, Authentication & Directory Services) IT Services, The Iowa State University of Science and Technology From bpeck@redhat.com Tue Dec 1 21:12:09 2009 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1LC463000569 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:12:09 GMT Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB1LC3SA005288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:12:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (vpn-8-13.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.8.13]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nB1LC3aw020655 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:12:03 -0500 Message-ID: <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:12:02 -0500 From: Bill Peck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090922 Fedora/3.0-3.9.b4.fc12 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> In-Reply-To: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.12 X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0000 On 12/01/2009 03:55 PM, John Hascall wrote: > >> My use case *is* different: I have dozens of development machines >> shared among trusted users. One nuisance is that somebody intends >> to reset A but mistakenly resets B instead. Being able to do the >> reset directly from conserver would reduce the likelihood of this. >> > We too would find this highly useful. > > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Hascall, john@iastate.edu > Team Lead, NIADS (Network Infrastructure, Authentication& Directory Services) > IT Services, The Iowa State University of Science and Technology > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > I provided a patch to support this ages ago but it was never accepted upstream. Not saying it was the best of code.. but it did work. From bjorn.helgaas@hp.com Tue Dec 1 21:27:10 2009 Received: from g1t0028.austin.hp.com (g1t0028.austin.hp.com [15.216.28.35]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1LR3aX000813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:27:09 GMT Received: from g5t0029.atlanta.hp.com (g5t0029.atlanta.hp.com [16.228.8.141]) by g1t0028.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C75B1C2A0; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ldl (linux.corp.hp.com [15.11.146.101]) by g5t0029.atlanta.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5FA2000E; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CA7CF000A; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:27:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from ldl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pz38rAsWHMYn; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:27:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from tigger.helgaas (lart.fc.hp.com [15.11.146.31]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F969CF0007; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:27:02 -0700 (MST) From: Bjorn Helgaas To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:27:00 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:27:10 -0000 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:12:02 pm Bill Peck wrote: > I provided a patch to support this ages ago but it was never accepted > upstream. Not saying it was the best of code.. but it did work. Do you still have it? I'd be interested in playing with it. Bjorn From bjorn.helgaas@hp.com Tue Dec 1 21:50:03 2009 Received: from g1t0029.austin.hp.com (g1t0029.austin.hp.com [15.216.28.36]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB1LnvKr001099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:50:03 GMT Received: from g1t0038.austin.hp.com (g1t0038.austin.hp.com [16.236.32.44]) by g1t0029.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452AD3808D for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ldl (linux.corp.hp.com [15.11.146.101]) by g1t0038.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB68300AB; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1018CF000A; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:49:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from ldl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24HwKTkYAfyP; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:49:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from tigger.helgaas (lart.fc.hp.com [15.11.146.31]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2F1CF0007; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:49:56 -0700 (MST) From: Bjorn Helgaas To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:49:55 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> In-Reply-To: <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200912011449.56093.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:50:03 -0000 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:27:00 pm Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:12:02 pm Bill Peck wrote: > > > I provided a patch to support this ages ago but it was never accepted > > upstream. Not saying it was the best of code.. but it did work. > > Do you still have it? I'd be interested in playing with it. Never mind, I found it here: https://www.conserver.com/pipermail/users/2007-June/msg00018.html Thanks much! Bjorn From fabien@faxm0dem.org Wed Dec 2 07:27:06 2009 Received: from ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr [134.158.66.51]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB27QxlF029169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:27:06 GMT Received: from leda.faxm0dem.org (ccvpn05.in2p3.fr [134.158.70.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/IN2P3) with ESMTP id nB27QvYh001315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:26:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leda.faxm0dem.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C229580CD for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:26:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from leda.faxm0dem.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id byKWg7-WdnJn for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:26:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by leda.faxm0dem.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 531A6846F; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:26:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:26:56 +0100 From: Fabien Wernli To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Re: power/reset control from conserver Message-ID: <20091202072655.GM25732@faxm0dem.org> Mail-Followup-To: users@conserver.com References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> <200912011449.56093.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200912011449.56093.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> Organization: CC-IN2P3 (CNRS) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: wernli@in2p3.fr List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:27:07 -0000 Hi, That being said, a more general 'execute external command on keystroke' would be the way to go, IMHO. But then again maybe that's what this is about anyway. From bryan@stansell.org Wed Dec 2 08:21:31 2009 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB28LVM6000688 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:21:31 GMT Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nB28LV9n000687 for users@conserver.com; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:21:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:21:31 -0800 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver Message-ID: <20091202082131.GJ8165@underdog.stansell.org> References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> <200912011449.56093.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> <20091202072655.GM25732@faxm0dem.org> <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091202072655.GM25732@faxm0dem.org> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:21:31 -0000 On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:12:02PM -0500, Bill Peck wrote: > I provided a patch to support this ages ago but it was never accepted > upstream. Not saying it was the best of code.. but it did work. Sorry about that...it certainly got lost amonst things - and I never got back to looking at it. On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 08:26:56AM +0100, Fabien Wernli wrote: > That being said, a more general 'execute external command on keystroke' > would be the way to go, IMHO. But then again maybe that's what this is about > anyway. Yep, I'd agree. The patch from Bill is certainly a good start at that. There's a lot of work to make things that wouldn't block on I/O, can be interrupted, supports two-way communication, etc, but a good idea. Sort of like ^Ec|, but server-side. I envision commands that would either interact with the console itself or with the user. But maybe just the user would be sufficient for most cases. Bryan From mdaigle@yorku.ca Wed Dec 2 13:53:20 2009 Received: from speedy.ccs.yorku.ca (speedy.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.214]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB2DrESq008557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:53:20 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (orion.ops.yorku.ca [130.63.237.36]) by speedy.ccs.yorku.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id nB2DrDUk023397 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:53:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4B16714B.3050403@yorku.ca> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:53:15 -0500 From: Mike Daigle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> In-Reply-To: <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:53:20 -0000 Most of our new servers have Ilom on board which is accessable from the console. We have found that we rarely need the external power control anymore. I can see that it would still be valuable for network devices and other appliances. On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:27:00 pm Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Tuesday 01 December 2009 02:12:02 pm Bill Peck wrote: > > > I provided a patch to support this ages ago but it was never accepted > > upstream. Not saying it was the best of code.. but it did work. > > Do you still have it? I'd be interested in playing with it. Never mind, I found it here: https://www.conserver.com/pipermail/users/2007-June/msg00018.html Thanks much! Bjorn _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From fabien@faxm0dem.org Wed Dec 2 14:24:21 2009 Received: from ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr [134.158.66.51]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB2EODmI009703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:24:20 GMT Received: from leda.faxm0dem.org (ccvpn05.in2p3.fr [134.158.70.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by ccsrelay01.in2p3.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/IN2P3) with ESMTP id nB2EOBod017631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:12 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by leda.faxm0dem.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ECF846D for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from leda.faxm0dem.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e7tRRSFwTs0V for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by leda.faxm0dem.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11AA88470; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:24:10 +0100 From: Fabien Wernli To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Re: power/reset control from conserver Message-ID: <20091202142410.GU25732@faxm0dem.org> Mail-Followup-To: users@conserver.com References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <4B1586A2.1050100@redhat.com> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> <4B16714B.3050403@yorku.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B16714B.3050403@yorku.ca> Organization: CC-IN2P3 (CNRS) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: wernli@in2p3.fr List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:24:21 -0000 On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 08:53:15AM -0500, Mike Daigle wrote: > Most of our new servers have Ilom on board which is accessable from the > console. We have found that we rarely need the external power control > anymore. I can see that it would still be valuable for network devices > and other appliances. for older devices the powerbot script called on a ^Ec could send an email to a FOD-agent ;-) From bjorn.helgaas@hp.com Wed Dec 2 16:12:25 2009 Received: from g4t0016.houston.hp.com (g4t0016.houston.hp.com [15.201.24.19]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nB2GCJ85012521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:12:25 GMT Received: from g4t0009.houston.hp.com (g4t0009.houston.hp.com [16.234.32.26]) by g4t0016.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2772E142B1; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ldl (linux.corp.hp.com [15.11.146.101]) by g4t0009.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA37AC082; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7B8CF0012; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:12:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from ldl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ldl.fc.hp.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JmnpoPM4XpLo; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:12:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from tigger.helgaas (lart.fc.hp.com [15.11.146.31]) by ldl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97589CF0007; Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:12:18 -0700 (MST) From: Bjorn Helgaas To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: power/reset control from conserver Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:12:16 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <9022.1259700917@malison.ait.iastate.edu> <200912011427.01531.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> <4B16714B.3050403@yorku.ca> In-Reply-To: <4B16714B.3050403@yorku.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200912020912.17475.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 209.182.219.30 Cc: Mike Daigle X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:12:25 -0000 On Wednesday 02 December 2009 06:53:15 am Mike Daigle wrote: > Most of our new servers have Ilom on board which is accessable from the > console. We have found that we rarely need the external power control > anymore. I can see that it would still be valuable for network devices > and other appliances. Most of my machines have built-in management processors that can control power, too. For me, the hassle is just dealing with the dialogues and confirmation prompts and inconsistencies between machines. Bjorn