From ppacheco@genesyslab.com Wed May 2 15:44:41 2007 Received: from g2.genesyslab.com (g2.genesyslab.com [198.49.180.210]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l42MiYpu019283 for ; Wed, 2 May 2007 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SARUMAN.us.int.genesyslab.com ([192.168.20.90]) by g2.genesyslab.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 May 2007 15:44:33 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C78D0B.73F2FA60" Subject: Conserver protocols. Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:44:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Conserver protocols. Thread-Index: AceNC3Of+HKGKXX4T1C+7Btswmy+uw== From: "Phillip Pacheco" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2007 22:44:33.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[742F44C0:01C78D0B] X-Spam-Score: -0.965 () BAYES_05,HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 22:44:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C78D0B.73F2FA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan, =20 My boss is asking probing questions about the conserver service during the planning phase of upgrading to the newest version of conserver. I have read the conserver man page, but a few things are less then clear. Could you please answer these questions to satisfy my boss' concerns/curiosity? =20 1. Does config file need to be identical on each client server? My boss would like to generate dynamic config files on each client for a decentralized configuration. Is this possible? 2. What facility/protocol is used for communications between the client server and the master server? To be clear, we currently use a master server, a few client servers, and several Cyclades console servers. Is the communications protocol between the console port and the Cyclades device the same protocol as between the client server and the master? =20 Thanks for your help. The Conserver software is a great product, and your support has been above and beyond. =20 Phillip Pacheco WIS-UNIX Genesys ------_=_NextPart_001_01C78D0B.73F2FA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bryan,

My boss is asking probing questions about the = conserver service during the planning phase of upgrading to the newest version of conserver. I have read the conserver man page, but a few things = are less then clear. Could you please answer these questions to satisfy my = boss’ concerns/curiosity?

Does config file need = to be identical on each client server? My boss would like to = generate dynamic config files on each client for a decentralized configuration. Is this = possible?
What facility/protocol = is used for communications between the client server and the master = server? To be clear, we currently use a master server, a few client = servers, and several Cyclades console servers. = Is the communications protocol between the console port and the Cyclades device the same protocol as between the client server and the = master?

Thanks for your help. The Conserver software is = a great product, and your support has been above and = beyond.

Phillip = Pacheco

WIS-UNIX

Genesys

------_=_NextPart_001_01C78D0B.73F2FA60-- From bryan@stansell.org Thu May 3 11:55:49 2007 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l43Itn70004281 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 11:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l43Itn9u004280 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 3 May 2007 11:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:55:48 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver protocols. Message-ID: <20070503185548.GI2741@underdog.stansell.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 18:55:50 -0000 On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:44:32PM -0700, Phillip Pacheco wrote: > Could you please answer these questions to satisfy my boss' > concerns/curiosity? questions are no problem...i'll take a whack at 'em... > 1. Does config file need to be identical on each client server? My > boss would like to generate dynamic config files on each client for a > decentralized configuration. Is this possible? no, they don't need to be identical. the one reason for doing that is to allow all the servers to know about eachother and redirect the client to the appropriate server. if each contain only their consoles, then the user will need to direct the client to the appropriate server. and, of course, any other combination in between could be used. multiple servers in a particular datacenter or security zone could share console definitions and redirect between them (which means users would just need to know the datacenter or zone to point to), etc. > 2. What facility/protocol is used for communications between the > client server and the master server? To be clear, we currently use a > master server, a few client servers, and several Cyclades console > servers. Is the communications protocol between the console port and > the Cyclades device the same protocol as between the client server and > the master? by 'client server' and 'master server' i'm going to assume 'master server' is just the default server a user connects to when using 'console'. there is no communcation between any of the servers. the client ('console') does all the work. the only thing they can do is tell the client where to go when they don't manage a console (by sharing the conserver.cf file or at least populating the other server's information). as for the last question, there are multiple possibilities based on what you mean by 'communications protocol between the console port and the cyclades device'. first possibility (which i'm guessing you're not talking about): many cyclades devices run conserver internally (they've bundled the code in and some folks cross-compile and run it locally) and the user can connect to it just like any other conserver host. in this case, it's just like another conserver instance...you can redirect users to it as above, but there is no direct communication with other conserver processes. second possibility: you're using conserver and connecting (via a tcp connection) to console ports on the cyclades. in this case the protocol is whatever the connection type you're using...raw, telnet, ssh, etc. either way, since there is no direct communication between conserver instances, there's no way the protocol can be the same. ;-) > Thanks for your help. The Conserver software is a great product, and > your support has been above and beyond. no problem...and thanks! hopefully the ramblings help. if i just made things more confusing or it brings up more questions, let me know! Bryan From rgaine@andromeda.rutgers.edu Thu May 3 12:36:42 2007 Received: from ajax2.rutgers.edu (ajax2.rutgers.edu [165.230.79.236]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l43Jaa6n004591 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 12:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ajax3.backend.invalid [192.168.0.145]) by ajax2.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9723498B79 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Received: from ajax2.rutgers.edu ([192.168.0.50]) by localhost (ajax3.backend.invalid [192.168.0.145]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PF67CI+tUBQC for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andromeda.rutgers.edu (andromeda.backend.invalid [192.168.0.41]) by ajax2.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F36898B5C for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [165.230.78.135] (ENG-NCS-6.rutgers.edu [165.230.78.135]) by andromeda.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C675B42019 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 15:36:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <463A39C7.1000208@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 15:36:39 -0400 From: Rick Gaine User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Subject: digi term server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.185 () BAYES_40 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 209.182.219.30 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 19:36:43 -0000 Hi, This isn't a conserver spacific question, but I figured this may be a good place to get an answer. I'm using a digi terminal server to connect to a Sun box to do a Solaris install. The digi uses the key to escape back to it's menu. The problem is I need the key during the install. Does anyone know how I can get an sent to the terminal? I've tried hitting the key twice and just about everything else I can think of. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Rick From brodie@mcw.edu Thu May 3 13:14:12 2007 Received: from guyton.phys.mcw.edu (guyton.phys.mcw.edu [141.106.224.91]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l43KE5Q2004820 for ; Thu, 3 May 2007 13:14:10 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: digi term server Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 15:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <8F78639AC56F4143B267FE5F5A1B92C8F887FB@guyton.phys.mcw.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: digi term server Thread-Index: AceNuomZc6ojF5aiRnOtx1TKcuHNsAABMOMg References: <463A39C7.1000208@andromeda.rutgers.edu> From: "Brodie, Kent" To: "Rick Gaine" X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 209.182.219.30 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:14:13 -0000 This is going to be model specific, but basically what you need to do is CHANGE the escape sequence for the port. You will want to change it to some odd control character(s) that are never normally used for the host or OS you're connecting to. According to a simple search I did on digi's site, I found the following for their portserver/Digi-one line: Not Able to Use the Arrow or Escape Keys When Connecting Through a PortServer/Digi One TS Unit. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Telnet to the unit and login as root from a UNIX or DOS command line: telnet (ip_of_unit) A user will need to be added with the escape key settings changed=20 #> set user name=3D telnetesc=3D^o connectesc=3D^z This will change the telnet escape character from ^] to ^o and the connectesc to ^z, for whichever user is having this problem. Note that you will not be able to change this for the root user. If you were using user "root" to do your testing, try creating a user named "test", then make the change for that user and test to see if the problem is fixed. =20 --------------------------------------------------------- Kent C. Brodie - brodie@phys.mcw.edu Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (414) 456-8590 -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] On Behalf Of Rick Gaine Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:37 PM To: users@conserver.com Subject: digi term server Hi, This isn't a conserver spacific question, but I figured this may be a=20 good place to get an answer. I'm using a digi terminal server to=20 connect to a Sun box to do a Solaris install. The digi uses the =20 key to escape back to it's menu. The problem is I need the key=20 during the install. Does anyone know how I can get an sent to the terminal? I've tried hitting the key twice and just about=20 everything else I can think of. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Rick _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users