From bryan@stansell.org Sun Jan 15 09:40:01 2006 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0FHe14K026415; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k0FHe1BN026414; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:40:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:40:01 -0800 From: Bryan Stansell To: announce@conserver.com, users@conserver.com Subject: conserver-8.1.13 is available Message-ID: <20060115174001.GA26137@underdog.stansell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:40:02 -0000 This latest release includes what I believe is a fix for the "conserver runs wild and eats up the CPU" issue that I've heard about. It seems to happen on Linux, but not Solaris (not sure about other platforms as those are the only two I can test on). For those of you using Linux and seeing this problem, please let me know if 8.1.13 doesn't fix it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Here are the other changes incorporated: version 8.1.13 (Jan 15, 2006): - use SIOCGIFNUM for interface count (if available) and catch EINVAL on Solaris - patch by Peter Jeremy - console output now resets idle timer - suggested by Peter Saunders - bug fix for conserver process running out of control and using up cpu - debugged with Alexandra N. Kossovsky Bryan Stansell From m.d.t.evans@qmul.ac.uk Mon Jan 16 02:35:45 2006 Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0GAZa7B017492; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EyRhv-00011p-Ru; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:35:28 +0000 Received: from mdte.css.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.8.140]) by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.50) id 1EyRhv-0003vJ-M4; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:35:27 +0000 Subject: Re: conserver-8.1.13 is available From: Martin Evans To: Bryan Stansell In-Reply-To: <20060115174001.GA26137@underdog.stansell.org> References: <20060115174001.GA26137@underdog.stansell.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-qGAOjOKkYjyez1HeMq9P" Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:35:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1137407727.5264.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.1 (2.4.1-7) X-Sender-Host-Address: 138.37.8.140 X-QM-Scan-Virus: virusscan says the message is clean X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:47:59 -0800 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:35:47 -0000 --=-qGAOjOKkYjyez1HeMq9P Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, The redhat rpm spec file has been broken by newer versions of rpm. On my fedora 4 machine with rpm 4.4.1 I get: # rpmbuild -ta conserver-8.1.13.tar.gz error: Legacy syntax is unsupported: copyright error: line 21: Unknown tag: Copyright: distributable I've attached a patch that fixes this by changing "Copyright: distributable" to "License: distributable". Note that this completely changes the meaning (and I am not sure if the former was intentional as the LICENSE file says "Copyright (c) 2000, conserver.com"). With that alteration in place, the build then fails with a: Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /var/tmp/conserver-buildroot error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib/conserver/convert RPM build errors: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib/conserver/convert The attached patch also fixes that by lumping the file in to the %doc (given it's name. I'm not sure where else it should go). Hope that helps, Martin. On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 09:40 -0800, Bryan Stansell wrote: > This latest release includes what I believe is a fix for the "conserver > runs wild and eats up the CPU" issue that I've heard about. It seems to > happen on Linux, but not Solaris (not sure about other platforms as > those are the only two I can test on). For those of you using Linux and > seeing this problem, please let me know if 8.1.13 doesn't fix it. I'm > keeping my fingers crossed. > > Here are the other changes incorporated: > > version 8.1.13 (Jan 15, 2006): > - use SIOCGIFNUM for interface count (if available) and catch > EINVAL on Solaris - patch by Peter Jeremy > > - console output now resets idle timer - suggested by Peter > Saunders > - bug fix for conserver process running out of control and using > up cpu - debugged with Alexandra N. Kossovsky > > > Bryan Stansell > _______________________________________________ > announce mailing list > announce@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/announce -- -- Dr MDT Evans, Computing Services, Queen Mary, University of London --=-qGAOjOKkYjyez1HeMq9P Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=conserver-8.1.13-spec_file.patch Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=conserver-8.1.13-spec_file.patch; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- conserver.spec.0 2006-01-15 17:22:11.000000000 +0000 +++ conserver.spec 2006-01-16 10:22:30.000000000 +0000 @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ Name: %{pkg} Version: %{ver} Release: 1.%{distver} -Copyright: distributable +License: distributable Group: System Environment/Daemons URL: http://www.conserver.com/ Source: http://www.conserver.com/%{pkg}-%{ver}.tar.gz @@ -65,6 +65,9 @@ %{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}/%{_initrddir} %{__cp} contrib/redhat-rpm/conserver.init %{buildroot}/%{_initrddir}/conserver +# remove installed convert script. +%{__rm} %{buildroot}/usr/lib/conserver/convert + %clean %{__rm} -rf %{buildroot} @@ -91,7 +94,7 @@ %files %defattr(-,root,root) -%doc CHANGES FAQ INSTALL README conserver.cf +%doc CHANGES FAQ INSTALL README conserver.cf conserver/convert %config(noreplace) %{_sysconfdir}/conserver.cf %config(noreplace) %{_sysconfdir}/conserver.passwd %attr(555,root,root) %{_initrddir}/conserver --=-qGAOjOKkYjyez1HeMq9P-- From dirk.wetter@gmail.com Thu Jan 26 08:38:00 2006 Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0QGbrQb010777 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30342 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2006 16:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org) (436239@[213.39.214.176]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Jan 2006 16:37:46 -0000 Received: by dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 04FE62BB31; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:37:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:37:44 +0100 From: "Dr. Dirk Wetter" To: users@conserver.com Subject: Avocent to acquire Cyclades Message-ID: <20060126163744.GB953@dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Dr. Wetter IT-Consulting User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:38:01 -0000 Hi, this might be of interest for some: http://avocent.com/web/en.nsf/Content/01262006-F BR, Dirk -- Dr. Dirk Wetter http://drwetter.org Consulting IT-Security + Open Source Key fingerprint = 80A2 742B 8195 969C 5FA6 6584 8B6E 59C1 E41B 9153 From cfowler@outpostsentinel.com Thu Jan 26 10:47:28 2006 Received: from www.linuxiceberg.com (66-23-224-81.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.224.81]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0QIlLeK016186 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.115] ([192.168.1.115]) by www.linuxiceberg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k0QIlHS02551; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:47:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Avocent to acquire Cyclades From: Christopher Fowler To: "Dr. Dirk Wetter" In-Reply-To: <20060126163744.GB953@dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org> References: <20060126163744.GB953@dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:47:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1138301233.23088.0.camel@shuttle.linxdev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:47:29 -0000 I guess Equinox was not a good enough purchase for Avocent. On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 17:37 +0100, Dr. Dirk Wetter wrote: > Hi, > > this might be of interest for some: > > http://avocent.com/web/en.nsf/Content/01262006-F > > > BR, > Dirk > > > -- > Dr. Dirk Wetter http://drwetter.org > Consulting IT-Security + Open Source > Key fingerprint = 80A2 742B 8195 969C 5FA6 6584 8B6E 59C1 E41B 9153 > > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From stoffj@taec.toshiba.com Fri Jan 27 13:53:08 2006 Received: from mailhost.taec.toshiba.com (mailhost.taec.com [209.243.128.33]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0RLr1GP023642 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sekrit.taec.toshiba.com (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX19+SL3TALFgPxFmh6ccUZ/W3H5w5OkGakA@sekrit.taec.toshiba.com [209.243.166.44]) by mailhost.taec.toshiba.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id k0RLqw9b010847; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stoffj@localhost) by sekrit.taec.toshiba.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0RLqvqx020084; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:52:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17370.38457.159431.955322@sekrit.taec.toshiba.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:52:57 -0500 From: "John Stoffel" To: "Dr. Dirk Wetter" Subject: Re: Avocent to acquire Cyclades In-Reply-To: <20060126163744.GB953@dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org> References: <20060126163744.GB953@dragon.dirkw.kicks-ass.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:53:08 -0000 This is the end, Avocent makes sub-standard boxes IMNSHO. Sigh... From brodie@mcw.edu Fri Jan 27 14:57:00 2006 Received: from guyton.phys.mcw.edu (guyton.phys.mcw.edu [141.106.224.91]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0RMuqFf026095 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:56:58 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: Avocent to acquire Cyclades Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:56:49 -0600 Message-ID: <8F78639AC56F4143B267FE5F5A1B92C8CDAD@guyton.phys.mcw.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Avocent to acquire Cyclades Thread-Index: AcYjjFjpg7EpblrIT5iXg4E6HDJ8WQAB8ZOQ From: "Brodie, Kent" To: "John Stoffel" X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id k0RMuqFf026095 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:57:00 -0000 Oh man. I appear to have been the victim of this a lot (that is, managing some REALLY good technology, and then some big mother ship swallows up said company, and the products I end up with all eventually suck...). The first of this was DIGITAL. We all know what happened there. And so on. Fortunately, on the ASSUMPTION that the existing cyclades line of boxes get shelved, there should be (I would hope) enough surplus and/or "previously owned" boxes out there to find one if you really need. I personally have been VERY happy with my cyclades boxes-- between that and conserver, I have something like 72 servers whose console ports I have configured. I have another 25 to add, just haven't gotten to them yet. NEVER had an issue. And I'm doing console access via serial/SSH and all that. -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] On Behalf Of John Stoffel Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:53 PM To: Dr. Dirk Wetter Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Avocent to acquire Cyclades This is the end, Avocent makes sub-standard boxes IMNSHO. Sigh... _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From slammert@panasas.com Fri Jan 27 16:21:17 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0S0L9UI029265 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (c-24-3-66-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.66.233]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20060128002105m1300nl96ue>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:21:06 +0000 Message-ID: <43DAB8F1.9010903@panasas.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:21:05 -0500 From: Steve Lammert Organization: Panasas, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brodie, Kent" Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** RE: Avocent to acquire Cyclades References: <8F78639AC56F4143B267FE5F5A1B92C8CDAD@guyton.phys.mcw.edu> In-Reply-To: <8F78639AC56F4143B267FE5F5A1B92C8CDAD@guyton.phys.mcw.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:21:18 -0000 I feel your pain. We have over fifty Cyclades TS units supporting nearly 2300 console lines. They've been a rock-solid part of our infrastructure for nearly five years. Sigh. Brodie, Kent wrote: > Oh man. I appear to have been the victim of this a lot (that is, > managing some REALLY good technology, and then some big mother ship > swallows up said company, and the products I end up with all eventually > suck...). > > The first of this was DIGITAL. We all know what happened there. And > so on. > > Fortunately, on the ASSUMPTION that the existing cyclades line of boxes > get shelved, there should be (I would hope) enough surplus and/or > "previously owned" boxes out there to find one if you really need. > > I personally have been VERY happy with my cyclades boxes-- between that > and conserver, I have something like 72 servers whose console ports I > have configured. I have another 25 to add, just haven't gotten to them > yet. > > NEVER had an issue. And I'm doing console access via serial/SSH and all > that. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] > On Behalf Of John Stoffel > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:53 PM > To: Dr. Dirk Wetter > Cc: users@conserver.com > Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Avocent to acquire Cyclades > > > This is the end, Avocent makes sub-standard boxes IMNSHO. Sigh... > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users -- -- steve lammert systems administrator voice: +1-412-323-3500 slammert@panasas.com panasas, inc cell: +1-412-310-3406 From slammert@panasas.com Fri Jan 27 16:25:05 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [204.127.192.84]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0S0OvFY029428 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (c-24-3-66-233.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.66.233]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20060128002451m1400lihtue>; Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:24:51 +0000 Message-ID: <43DAB9D2.9020003@panasas.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:24:50 -0500 From: Steve Lammert Organization: Panasas, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brodie, Kent" Subject: RE: Avocent to acquire Cyclades References: <8F78639AC56F4143B267FE5F5A1B92C8CDAD@guyton.phys.mcw.edu> <43DAB8F1.9010903@panasas.com> In-Reply-To: <43DAB8F1.9010903@panasas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 00:25:05 -0000 P.S. Sorry for the ASSP spam tag on that e-mail... Steve Lammert wrote: > I feel your pain. We have over fifty Cyclades TS units supporting > nearly 2300 console lines. They've been a rock-solid part of our > infrastructure for nearly five years. > > Sigh. > > > Brodie, Kent wrote: > >>Oh man. I appear to have been the victim of this a lot (that is, >>managing some REALLY good technology, and then some big mother ship >>swallows up said company, and the products I end up with all eventually >>suck...). >> >>The first of this was DIGITAL. We all know what happened there. And >>so on. >> >>Fortunately, on the ASSUMPTION that the existing cyclades line of boxes >>get shelved, there should be (I would hope) enough surplus and/or >>"previously owned" boxes out there to find one if you really need. >> >>I personally have been VERY happy with my cyclades boxes-- between that >>and conserver, I have something like 72 servers whose console ports I >>have configured. I have another 25 to add, just haven't gotten to them >>yet. >> >>NEVER had an issue. And I'm doing console access via serial/SSH and all >>that. >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] >>On Behalf Of John Stoffel >>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:53 PM >>To: Dr. Dirk Wetter >>Cc: users@conserver.com >>Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Avocent to acquire Cyclades >> >> >>This is the end, Avocent makes sub-standard boxes IMNSHO. Sigh... >> >>_______________________________________________ >>users mailing list >>users@conserver.com >>https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users >> >>_______________________________________________ >>users mailing list >>users@conserver.com >>https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > -- -- steve lammert systems administrator voice: +1-412-323-3500 slammert@panasas.com panasas, inc cell: +1-412-310-3406 From david.k.harris@siemens.com Fri Jan 27 17:23:00 2006 Received: from MAIL01.sbs.siemens.com (mail01.sbs.siemens.com [66.100.153.50]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0S1Mqv6001797 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from MASD201A.ww017.siemens.net ([155.45.64.201]) by 66.100.153.50 with trend_isnt_name_B; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:23:18 -0500 Received: from MASD301A.ww017.siemens.net ([155.45.64.51]) by MASD201A.ww017.siemens.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:22:51 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C623A9.5AEAAC48" Subject: Avocent acquires Cyclades... Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <0A15E6C7B504A74985A86C0E0C0091A702ADBAA5@MASD301A.ww017.siemens.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Avocent acquires Cyclades... thread-index: AcYjqVqn6WuBiQ3cTU66fAdS0wk6CA== From: "Harris, David \(SBS US\)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2006 01:22:51.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B275F70:01C623A9] X-Spam-Score: -4.285 () BAYES_00,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:23:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C623A9.5AEAAC48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline This week is also a big Sales meeting for Cyclades, so that's one reason=20 that folks may not have heard from their Cyclades contacts about this deal. =20 I listened to the streaming audio from the conference call today, and the Analysts asking questions seemed to know about the financial issues, but console services sort of eluded them. They are taking the word of the=20 Avocent folks, who were being careful to NOT say anything that might be held against them later. (This is understandable...) =20 One thing that caught my attention was some write-downs of costs related to R&D costs for in-progress products. (So, there seem to be some Cyclades projects/products 'in the oven', which should continue baking until they are ready, versus being scrapped. At least, that's what I read into this news.) =20 Avocent picked up Equinox, but hardware didn't help much. Cyclades has been selling many more CSs in the market, so this seems to be how you=20 buy more market share. The call also points out the positive aspects, where the two companies compliment each other...on the surface, this all looks well and good. Only time will tell how this will all shake out. =20 Cross your fingers, =20 -Zonker- =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C623A9.5AEAAC48 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

  This week is also a big Sales meeting for Cyclades, so that’s one reason =

that folks may not have heard from their Cyclades contacts about this deal.

 

  I listened to the streaming audio from the confer= ence call today, and the

Analysts asking questions seemed to know about the finan= cial issues, but

console services sort of eluded them. They are taking the word of the

Avocent folks, who were being careful to NOT say anything that might

be held against them later. (This is understandable̷= 0;)

 

  One thing that caught my attention was some write= -downs of costs related

to R&D costs for in-progress products. (So, there se= em to be some Cyclades

projects/products ‘in the oven’, which should continue baking until they are

ready, versus being scrapped. At least, that’s wha= t I read into this news.)

 

  Avocent picked up Equinox, but hardware didn̵= 7;t help much. Cyclades has

been selling many more CSs in the market, so this seems = to be how you

buy more market share. The call also points out the posi= tive aspects,

where the two companies compliment each other…on t= he surface, this

all looks well and good. Only time will tell how this wi= ll all shake out.

 

    Cross your fingers,

 

      -Zonker-

 

 

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