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Has anyone a working config to work with HP's iLo?  I have a number of 
machines running Linux and would love to log console output.

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On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 16:27 -0700, matthew zeier wrote:
> 
> Has anyone a working config to work with HP's iLo?  I have a number
> of 
> machines running Linux and would love to log console output.

The iLo's that I've dealt with were ethernet based and required a web
browser.  Can to telnet directly to the card and gain access to the
serial console?

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The ILO may be configured to accept telnet or ssh connections; once
connected the serial port maybe accessed via vsp program and some folks
launch remcons; I believe remcons requires that linux systems be in init
level 3.

To set up the serial port for use with vsp:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/CoreRedirect.jsp?redirectRe
ason=DocIndexPDF&prodSeriesId=397989&targetPage=http%3A%2F%2Fh20000.www2.hp.
com%2Fbc%2Fdocs%2Fsupport%2FSupportManual%2Fc00263709%2Fc00263709.pdf

The new versions of ilo also support SMASH or a subset of SMASH. 

In our MO product we connect to the ssh port via our ssh access method and
perform data logging. 

Please note as well that there is a bug with ssh on the current ilo firmware
if coming from FC-5 or SUSE 10+ or Solaris 10 ssh. The workaround does not
work for Solaris 10, BTW. See details on the ssh workaround just below.

We have also worked out a mechanism to send a number of XML commands
directly to the ILO if you want to automate or centrally control your ILOs.
The link for the XML scripts is:
http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/23217.html 

A good general page for ILOs:

http://h18013.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ilo/documentation.html
. 

Details on the ssh workaround:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc
=us&objectID=c00680182&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN 

I followed the instructions and created a file ~/.ssh/ilo on my Fedora Core
5 systems and did "ssh -F ~/.ssh/ilo" where the ~/.ssh/ilo has one line in
it ForwardAgent no

And it worked; I had tried changing the ssh_config but that did not work.
The workaround WORKS!

The error message looks like this:

 -bash-3.00# ssh demo2ilo
root@demo2ilo's password:
dispatch_protocol_error: type 100 seq 7
buffer_get: trying to get more bytes 4 than in buffer 0

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> Has anyone a working config to work with HP's iLo?  I have a number
> of 
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> serial console?

Sort of - they support ssh and I can get a serial console once I ssh in.

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Jim Corrigan wrote:
> The ILO may be configured to accept telnet or ssh connections; once
> connected the serial port maybe accessed via vsp program and some folks
> launch remcons; I believe remcons requires that linux systems be in init
> level 3.

So I guess where I'm stuck is in figuring out how to launch ssh and 
start remcons all from within conserver.

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The developers should be able to allow conserver to make an ssh connection
to an address as easily as they allow an ssh connection to port on a
terminal server.

I could look at the code but the conserver developers would be much better
resource than me.



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Jim Corrigan wrote:
> The ILO may be configured to accept telnet or ssh connections; once
> connected the serial port maybe accessed via vsp program and some folks
> launch remcons; I believe remcons requires that linux systems be in init
> level 3.

So I guess where I'm stuck is in figuring out how to launch ssh and 
start remcons all from within conserver.

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Conserver as far as I know will not automate any of this for you.
It can fire off an ssh client to the iLO board but you'll have to
manually enter a password with the console program at connect.  This
will be a PITA.

The one thing I never liked about iLO was that it was oriented for one
server.  HP might have created enterprise level software that allows for
a central point of management of a data center with 100s of these
servers but when I evaluated them there was nothing.  I had to manually
connect with a browser to each one and keep a list of IPs on a sheet of
paper for each board.  Not effective in a large data center.

Here is what I would do if you want conserver to connect to the console
port of the server.

1.  Setup serial console on Linux.
2.  Setup bios redirection to serial on server
3.  Attach a serial cable from multi-port IO board
    to the serial port.

Now if you do not want to invest in a 32 port board and server to
be your console server then the next step is to write a front end
to ssh and have conserver execute it.  It will then log into te board
and execute the serial client.  I would write this in PERL.


On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 22:55, Jim Corrigan wrote:
> The developers should be able to allow conserver to make an ssh connection
> to an address as easily as they allow an ssh connection to port on a
> terminal server.
> 
> I could look at the code but the conserver developers would be much better
> resource than me.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matthew zeier [mailto:mrz@mozilla.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:47 PM
> To: Jim Corrigan
> Cc: 'Christopher Fowler'; users@conserver.com
> Subject: Re: integration with HP's iLo ?
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Corrigan wrote:
> > The ILO may be configured to accept telnet or ssh connections; once
> > connected the serial port maybe accessed via vsp program and some folks
> > launch remcons; I believe remcons requires that linux systems be in init
> > level 3.
> 
> So I guess where I'm stuck is in figuring out how to launch ssh and 
> start remcons all from within conserver.

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Hi,

An employee from HP once sent me this config example:

###########################################################################
# Sample conserver.cf file for accessing iLO Virtual Serial Port consoles #
###########################################################################

# Requires conserver v8.1.8 or later from http://www.conserver.com/

access *  { trusted localhost; }
                                                                                
config *  { daemonmode on; logfile /var/log/conserver.log; }                    
                                                                                
default * { master localhost; rw *; }

#
# Default settings for all iLO Virtual Serial Port consoles
#
default ilo-vsp {
        type host;
        port 23;
        # The iLO Username and Password are passed as the first and
        # second parameters of the ilo-vsplogin script:
        initcmd "/usr/local/etc/ilo-vsplogin Administrator password";
}

console dl380g4 { include ilo-vsp; host 16.100.225.138; }
console dl360g4 { include ilo-vsp; host 16.100.226.163; }

And then, the script:

#!/usr/bin/expect -f
#####################################################################
# Sample expect script for automating iLO VSP Logins with conserver #
#####################################################################

# Hardware Supported: ProLiant DL360 G4, DL380 G4, BL30p, etc.
# iLO Firmware Version Required: v1.60
# iLO must have Telnet logins enabled
# Virtual Serial Port must be configured in RBSU
# Operating System must be running a console on the VSP

set send_slow {1 0.02}
set username [lindex $argv 0];
set password [lindex $argv 1];

expect "Name:  "
send -s "$username\r"

expect "ssword: "
send -s "$password\r"

expect "iLO> "
send -s "vsp\r"

You would need to enable telnet then however.

Cheers,
Anders.

On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:27:34PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote:
> Has anyone a working config to work with HP's iLo?  I have a number of 
> machines running Linux and would love to log console output.
> 
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On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 03:48:04PM +0200, Anders Nordby wrote:
> You would need to enable telnet then however.

or stick with ssh and just adjust a few things.  the console type would
need to shift to an 'exec' type and you'd have to tell is the proper
incantation for ssh.

default ilo-vsp {
    type exec;
    exec ssh ...;
}

there are many ways to tweak this based on whether or not you go to port
22 for all things, etc.  then tweak the expect script appropriately as
well.  pretty much all things are possible - perhaps not a simple toggle
in the config, but possible.

Bryan
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Folks,

I'm a long-time conserver user, and a long-time terminal-server user,
but this is the first time I've used conserver with a terminal-server.
We're setting conserver up to connect to a Perle JetStream 8548 in
reverse-telnet mode.  Our console master host platform is Solaris-10
on both Sun Blade 150 and also Solaris-10_x86 on a P4 PC.

One thing I've noticed is that reverse telnet connections seem to have
very bursty output on this unit.  Instead of a steady stream of characters
that a direct (hardwired) serial connection gives, you get a batch of
characters (maybe 4-5 lines of text) in a quick burst, pause, then another
batch, etc.  This happens when using both conserver and plain old telnet
to connect to a port, so it's nothing wrong with conserver itself.

As I said, I've used terminal servers for years, but this is my first
experience with the JetStream product.  We also have an old IOLAN+ Rack
unit, and the IOLAN+ does not exhibit this bursty output behavior, even
when given the same serial-line output from identical hardware.  The Perle
seems to behave the same when the port is in "reverse raw" mode and conserver
is set with the "protocol raw" option to match.

We're running ports at 9600bps almost without exception, and no serial
flow control is in effect at this time.  Network gear is all switched
10/100, operating at 100Mbps (except for the IOLAN+).  I'm wondering if
folks have guidance as to settings that one can tune on either the
JetStream or on the Solaris side to give smoother serial output with
this arrangement.

Thanks and regards,

Marion



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  I've played with the Rack+ units, and not the JetStream...

  If you have bursty traffic, it sounds like it's the JetStream, based
on what you have said. (You indicated that the Rack+ doesn't exhibit the
symptom when connected to the same serial ports, if I understand you
correctly.) Here's a few things to think about and try;

  You may find a serial setting, but it may also be that the CPU of the
JetStream can't keep up with the high rates during prolonged bursts.
Another option is that the serial rate may be too slow, and the CPU is
time-slicing to check all of the other ports before getting back to the
next batch from the busy port(s).

  You could try to increase the serial port speed on the JetStream and
the serial console you conenct to, and see if the JetStream can keep up.
(Do you have cabling to support hardware flow control? In the cable and
the adapters? Are the serial ports on both devices set to use the flow
control? If not, a higher speed may incur some data loss, because you
may overfill the UART buffers with the higher data rate.)

  If the higher data rate works, it may indicate that the JetStream has
an issue polling the various ports. This could point to an issue
handling the interrupts from the UARTs, or servicing a busy network
interface. (Are you attaching the JetStream to a switch port, or a busy
hub?)

          -Z- 

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Folks,

I'm a long-time conserver user, and a long-time terminal-server user,
but this is the first time I've used conserver with a terminal-server.
We're setting conserver up to connect to a Perle JetStream 8548 in
reverse-telnet mode.  Our console master host platform is Solaris-10 on
both Sun Blade 150 and also Solaris-10_x86 on a P4 PC.

One thing I've noticed is that reverse telnet connections seem to have
very bursty output on this unit.  Instead of a steady stream of
characters that a direct (hardwired) serial connection gives, you get a
batch of characters (maybe 4-5 lines of text) in a quick burst, pause,
then another batch, etc.  This happens when using both conserver and
plain old telnet to connect to a port, so it's nothing wrong with
conserver itself.

As I said, I've used terminal servers for years, but this is my first
experience with the JetStream product.  We also have an old IOLAN+ Rack
unit, and the IOLAN+ does not exhibit this bursty output behavior, even
when given the same serial-line output from identical hardware.  The
Perle seems to behave the same when the port is in "reverse raw" mode
and conserver is set with the "protocol raw" option to match.

We're running ports at 9600bps almost without exception, and no serial
flow control is in effect at this time.  Network gear is all switched
10/100, operating at 100Mbps (except for the IOLAN+).  I'm wondering if
folks have guidance as to settings that one can tune on either the
JetStream or on the Solaris side to give smoother serial output with
this arrangement.

Thanks and regards,

Marion



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david.k.harris@siemens.com said:
>   If you have bursty traffic, it sounds like it's the JetStream, based on
> what you have said. (You indicated that the Rack+ doesn't exhibit the symptom
> when connected to the same serial ports, if I understand you correctly.)

Yes, both units are connected to the LOM ports on identical Sun V120's.


>   You may find a serial setting, but it may also be that the CPU of the
> JetStream can't keep up with the high rates during prolonged bursts. Another
> option is that the serial rate may be too slow, and the CPU is time-slicing
> to check all of the other ports before getting back to the next batch from
> the busy port(s).

We're running at the V120 default serial settings 9600bps, 8/N/1, no flow
control running at all.  Haven't seen signs of lost characters, so the
"CPU too slow" scenario seems unlikely, especially at these speeds.


>   If the higher data rate works, it may indicate that the JetStream has an
> issue polling the various ports. This could point to an issue handling the
> interrupts from the UARTs, or servicing a busy network interface. (Are you
> attaching the JetStream to a switch port, or a busy hub?) 

Nothing's busy yet;  Just one serial port for testing so far, and it's
a switched 10/100 network with not much going on.

When I asked about tuning, I was wondering if there wasn't a poll-type
setting which could be changed.  Given the low-speed nature of this
environment, going to a more interrupt-driven scenario in order to get
smoother output would be an acceptable trade-off.

Cabling, adapters, and V120's are capable of doing CTS/RTS flow control,
so I'll see about trying higher port speeds to see if things go a little
more smoothly.  Maybe with flow-control enabled the JetStream will use a
different algorithm, or as you said, the faster baud rate may just make it
work harder and/or poll faster.

Thanks and regards,

Marion



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> Cabling, adapters, and V120's are capable of doing CTS/RTS flow control,
> so I'll see about trying higher port speeds to see if things go a little
> more smoothly.

At 38.4kbps, output looks smoother.  The pauses are still there between
bursts of output, but less noticeable.


> Maybe with flow-control enabled the JetStream will use a
> different algorithm, or as you said, the faster baud rate may just make it
> work harder and/or poll faster.

Flow control didn't seem to come into play at 38.4kbps.  No sign of
lost characters, even with no flow control enabled.

BTW, is it just me, or does Sun do hardware flow control strangely?  Given
your experience, you're probably aware of this, but I've just discovered
that the RJ45-DB9 adapter that Sun supplies with their gear (530-3100-01)
is just plain weird.  It swaps the TXD and RXD wires (as a null-modem does),
but is otherwise straight through for all the control signals (RTS-RTS,
CTS-CTS, etc.).  A full null-modem arrangement (like the APACN 24490-71,
but with Perle JetStream pin-outs on the left instead of IOLAN) doesn't
let the data flow.

Thanks and regards,

Marion



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Hi Folks (and Bryan),

I am trying to set up conserver to use SSH to talk to the consoles I
have hung off of a Digi32....but I cannot seem to come up with the
correct syntax.  The reason I want this is simply because we don't want
the unencrypted passwords floating around the network (between the
conserver box and the Digi).

I have the Digi set correctly, as I can "ssh -p 7002 digi" and I get the
console for the machine connected to port 2...but I cannot seem to come
up with the right conserver.cf config.  :-(

I am sure there are others doing this...

So any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)

-Emmett

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hey emmett!

here's an idea, based on some stuff i put in
conserver.cf/samples/average.cf:

default digissh {
    type exec; portbase 7000; portinc 1;
    exec ssh -p P H;
    execsubst H=hs,P=Pd;
}

default digi {
    include digissh;
    host digi;
}

console foo { include digi; port 2; }

personally, i'd fully qualify "digi".  and there are other bits you'll
need to add (like "rw" and possibly "ro" options, the "master" option,
etc).  check out the samples directory for more possibilities (and there
have been posts in the past with working configs for similar
situations - i believe).

Bryan

On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 09:40:09AM -0700, Emmett Hogan wrote:
> Hi Folks (and Bryan),
> 
> I am trying to set up conserver to use SSH to talk to the consoles I
> have hung off of a Digi32....but I cannot seem to come up with the
> correct syntax.  The reason I want this is simply because we don't want
> the unencrypted passwords floating around the network (between the
> conserver box and the Digi).
> 
> I have the Digi set correctly, as I can "ssh -p 7002 digi" and I get the
> console for the machine connected to port 2...but I cannot seem to come
> up with the right conserver.cf config.  :-(
> 
> I am sure there are others doing this...
> 
> So any help would be greatly appreciated! :-)
> 
> -Emmett
> 
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hakansom@ohsu.edu said:
> BTW, is it just me, or does Sun do hardware flow control strangely?  Given 

OK, it's just me.  Turns out I hadn't noticed the DCE label on the
diagram which I was comparing to a DTE diagram.  Sigh.


> Flow control didn't seem to come into play at 38.4kbps.  No sign of lost
> characters, even with no flow control enabled. 

One last datapoint:  Perle has their TruePort device driver which gives
real Solaris tty's, over the network to ports on the JetStream box.  I gave
this a try with conserver, and found the same delayed-bursty output behavior
at 9600bps as when using reverse telnet.  So it seems inherent in their
buffer-polling code.

Thanks for the guidance.

Regards,

Marion



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HI All,

Currently I am running `conserver.com version 7.2.7' & using Cyclades
ACS Console Servers to connected to the Sun Box Console & the
following is the version of this server:


Linux version 2.6.11 (gcc version 3.3.1 (MontaVista
3.3.1-3.0.10.0300532 2003-12-24)) #1 Tue Mar 28 13:31:20 PST 2006
AlterPath-ACS48-Linux V_2.6.1 (Mar/28/2006)

The alternate break sequence is being enabled in the Sun Box.

However, it is noticed that the default break sequence 2 is not
function properly to beak the attached Sun box to OBP.

0  `\z'
1  `\z'
2  `\r~^b'
3  `#.reset -x\r'

But, it is noticed that such break sequence is working for the CISCO
Console server.  So, do you got any clue on it?


Thanks & Regards
Paul
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On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:53:15PM +0800, Paul Liong wrote:
> The alternate break sequence is being enabled in the Sun Box.

so, if you type <return>,~,ctrl-b you can make it break, right?

if that's the case, then it's all a factor of how much delay there is
between characters.  i believe they added a requirement that there was
some amount of delay between characters so that you could still send
data over a modem, for example, and not cause a machine to break.  the
assumption being that a human wouldn't be able to type it quickly.

i was going to say "just add the \d option to the sequence", but that
doesn't feature isn't in the 7.2.7 code.  i don't know if there's any
way for you to upgrade to the latest version, but if so, that would fix
your issue.  i'm not even sure if cyclades has modified the 7.2.7 code
at all to work on their boxes.  if not, you could just put in a usleep()
call in the DoBreakWork() subroutine of conserver/group.c (not sure
where exactly...but it gets you close, at least) and rebuild the
program (i think cyclades provide a development environment or
something).

the last thing you could do is run 8.1.14 on another host and not use
the cyclades local version of conserver.  quite a radical shift, and
possibly not one you'd want to do - i understand, but it is an option.

those are really the only things i can think of at this point.  if
typing the escape sequence by hand doesn't cause a break, well then,
double-check your sun setup.  ;-)

Bryan