From shijialist@yahoo.ca Mon Jul 18 10:12:19 2005 Received: from web42105.mail.yahoo.com (web42105.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.198]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6IHCCHw009979 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96127 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2005 17:12:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DTtj4PVc2VYp4ipg/yBYGvUrBHp7rbEBf059jsVs7Cd+4fHAaU5s/oP7CVMwUVgxsN96VtRudbVj/U7KpTskDYkl7QeuaGm2gsVrtYUD7OPt8xLymyjksMx2KIH5e5Erv2ZzYNh6TjFSewC10p5uuVlePudxbyRvYbSxwtFN28w= ; Message-ID: <20050718171212.96125.qmail@web42105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.63.237.207] by web42105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:11 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "James.Q.L" Subject: questions on log scrolling and user permission To: users@conserver.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:12:20 -0000 hello, all I have two questions. 1. can i do scroll back in a console more than 20/60 lines? I found a feature request 2 years ago (https://www.conserver.com/pipermail/users/2003-October/msg00001.html) giving user permission on this console log is not doable as the log belong to root and the user may not have root previlege. 2. I find that if user A trying to connect to a console while user B is already connected and logon to the console, say as root, user A can bump user B off to spy mode and becomes whatever the user B was, root in this case. should this behaviour be expected in conserver ? i would expect that user B would be able to bump user A off and is asked to login to the console. both user A and B have rw permission on this console. thanks, J. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Zonker.Harris@bigbandnet.com Mon Jul 18 10:24:30 2005 Received: from CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com ([12.162.23.130]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6IHONM7010081 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: questions on log scrolling and user permission X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:26:08 -0700 Message-ID: <01467BEB528BFF4086CC27464B4C8BCC262B6E@CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: questions on log scrolling and user permission Thread-Index: AcWLvJSUQBsDEOy7Rz6GzFnavTJ+pgAADo5A From: "Zonker Harris" To: "James.Q.L" , X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id j6IHONM7010081 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:24:31 -0000 On question #2... It is useful for conserver to *NOT* try to interact with the host (to escape from a root login) if a user changes their 'write' privs in conserver... Consider the scenario of a junior admin, debugging a problem. He can find the trouble, but not fix it...so, he contacts a senior admin...she gets on the console, bumps the junior, logs into root, and then can release the session back to the junior (she enters 'spy mode' and conserver reverts control to the previous user). The senior can watch, and can advise the junior by phone, and she can ensure that the junior logs out of root access when he is done. In normal operation, the attached host never knows when the conserver client sessions connect, disconnect, or change control. (So, it would be difficult for the attached host to log out of root access when a conserver client changes...) -Z- -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com]On Behalf Of James.Q.L Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:12 AM To: users@conserver.com Subject: questions on log scrolling and user permission hello, all I have two questions. 1. can i do scroll back in a console more than 20/60 lines? I found a feature request 2 years ago (https://www.conserver.com/pipermail/users/2003-October/msg00001.html) giving user permission on this console log is not doable as the log belong to root and the user may not have root previlege. 2. I find that if user A trying to connect to a console while user B is already connected and logon to the console, say as root, user A can bump user B off to spy mode and becomes whatever the user B was, root in this case. should this behaviour be expected in conserver ? i would expect that user B would be able to bump user A off and is asked to login to the console. both user A and B have rw permission on this console. thanks, J. From nick.bruton@bristol.ac.uk Mon Jul 25 07:39:41 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6PEdXWM004590 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncsb.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.100]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Dx479-0004Qq-Va for users@conserver.com; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:39:33 +0100 Received: from titan.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.123] helo=titan) by ncsb.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1Dx479-0002k3-Aw for users@conserver.com; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:39:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:39:31 +0100 From: Nick Bruton To: users@conserver.com Subject: Newbie question Message-ID: <0FC9C5484B26D4338E800CD0@titan> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01rEll7w+s01nZit5Z2hKvkljkq9sS7B6/k1Hps94T2g932lo=; token_authority=postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Bruton List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:39:42 -0000 Hi, Can someone tell me if I've got things correct ........... I have a host called t I have a system called y which has an 8 port usb-serial adaptor on it I'd like to be able to see the consoles from y on t SO do I need to run conserver on both y and t? or on only one system? Thanks Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk From Adam.Morris@providence.org Mon Jul 25 07:56:06 2005 Received: from phsornt424.or.providence.org (phsor-nat2.providence.org [170.220.2.14]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6PEtwpi004732 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by phsornt424.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:55:51 -0700 X-KryptiqSpooler: Handled Received: from wn0034.or.providence.org ([170.220.78.17]) by phsornt424.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:55:51 -0700 Received: from wn0206.or.providence.org ([10.240.80.41]) by wn0034.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:55:22 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: RE: Newbie question Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:55:21 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie question Thread-Index: AcWRJ+celakDnYiaR4yk0/XAOHCAvgAACBXw From: "Morris, Adam" To: "Nick Bruton" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2005 14:55:22.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1C4AF10:01C59128] X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id j6PEtwpi004732 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:56:07 -0000 Woohoo, an easy one. First you connect the consoles you are interested in to serial ports on y. Then you run conserver on y and configure it to manage those consoles. If you are on host t and you want to view the consoles managed by y then you run the console command on t. You might need to install conserver on t if the architecture is different from y in order to get the console command. Conserver is the server part of the equation. It manages the serial connections (and more) and makes them available to any clients. Console is the client portion. It allows you to connect to a conserver host and use one of the serial connections. You can of course run console locally on the conserver machine. I hope that this helps. Adam -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com]On Behalf Of Nick Bruton Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:40 AM To: users@conserver.com Subject: Newbie question Hi, Can someone tell me if I've got things correct ........... I have a host called t I have a system called y which has an 8 port usb-serial adaptor on it I'd like to be able to see the consoles from y on t SO do I need to run conserver on both y and t? or on only one system? Thanks Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the sole use of the addressee, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. 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From nick.bruton@bristol.ac.uk Tue Jul 26 01:54:29 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6Q8sMpF015156 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncsb.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.100]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DxLCb-0002DE-7w for users@conserver.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:54:22 +0100 Received: from titan.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.123] helo=titan) by ncsb.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1DxLCY-0001NZ-Pb for users@conserver.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:54:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:54:14 +0100 From: Nick Bruton To: users@conserver.com Subject: output problems Message-ID: Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01DaIxHHAFn4Y646qGO3MIXoVFBKc/TX8YX35KDKpAO3DQpoc=; token_authority=postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Bruton List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:54:30 -0000 Hi, I sort of have conserver working BUT it wont send output to both the "console port" and the conserver console, it keeps waiting until I press a key to continue on the conserver console (seems like x-off), (even in spy mode it happens) this is linux-linux or linux-solaris Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk From nick.bruton@bristol.ac.uk Tue Jul 26 06:08:20 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6QD8Aiv019249 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncsb.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.100]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DxPAB-00058S-Vr for users@conserver.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:08:07 +0100 Received: from titan.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.123] helo=titan) by ncsb.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1DxPA9-0005iE-Fi for users@conserver.com; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:08:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:08:01 +0100 From: Nick Bruton To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: output problems Message-ID: <75D24EBCA85E47C9C72F0E35@titan> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01z3EJYTLUd8v8soLL/TXXNsoH03+ED0HnN8MM24KF/TKffsw=; token_authority=postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Bruton List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:08:21 -0000 More info, everything works fine from the minicom sessions, commands such as ls -lR / run fine BUT as soon as I use conserver it puts some of the output on the real console some on the conserver console, looks like it x-offs Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk From Zonker.Harris@bigbandnet.com Tue Jul 26 08:51:16 2005 Received: from CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com ([12.162.23.130]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6QFp8sx020371 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:51:14 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: output problems Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:52:49 -0700 Message-ID: <01467BEB528BFF4086CC27464B4C8BCC262BCF@CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: output problems Thread-Index: AcWR5EKV/ZnJ3HsETlaDssBh7Jm5hwAFSJXQ From: "Zonker Harris" To: "Nick Bruton" , X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id j6QFp8sx020371 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:51:16 -0000 Nick, What is 'terminating' the serial ports? Do you have a console server (what brand/model)? Are you using a multi-port serial adapter in the conserver host? Are your minicom sessions being run on the conserver host? (Are the serial ports 'local' to the conserver host?) -Z- -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com]On Behalf Of Nick Bruton Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:08 AM To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: output problems More info, everything works fine from the minicom sessions, commands such as ls -lR / run fine BUT as soon as I use conserver it puts some of the output on the real console some on the conserver console, looks like it x-offs Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk From nick.bruton@bristol.ac.uk Wed Jul 27 01:23:03 2005 Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6R8Mtcs001808 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncsb.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.100]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1DxhBl-0003IP-Eq for users@conserver.com; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:22:55 +0100 Received: from titan.cse.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.12.123] helo=titan) by ncsb.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1DxhBi-0003uL-TX for users@conserver.com; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:22:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:22:50 +0100 From: Nick Bruton To: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: output problems Message-ID: <305B054D64597F553AA35062@titan> In-Reply-To: <09472E4FBEA9A5C5D72862DD@[192.168.0.254]> References: <01467BEB528BFF4086CC27464B4C8BCC262BCF@CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com> <09472E4FBEA9A5C5D72862DD@[192.168.0.254]> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:012yx/GD6P7YIIbfiCCUGSrIETjvU7G02irXoYlvg8CT5a9IM=; token_authority=postmaster@bristol.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Spam-Level: -- X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Bruton List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:23:03 -0000 Right, The set-up is as follows .... Remote end is a laptop with an 8 port USB serial box (boxed as vscom), the minicom sessions are run on the laptop, connected to the serial ports are a mixture of Suns and PC's running various versions of linux Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Bruton PADI Divemaster #624215 University of Bristol Yamaha YZF R1 Computing Service Tyndall Avenue Bristol BS8 1UD Tel: 0117 9288193 Team email: isys-srct@bris.ac.uk From bryan@stansell.org Thu Jul 28 18:30:11 2005 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6T1UBn0018036 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j6T1UAw4018035 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:30:10 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: questions on log scrolling and user permission Message-ID: <20050729013010.GG17803@underdog.stansell.org> References: <20050718171212.96125.qmail@web42105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050718171212.96125.qmail@web42105.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:30:11 -0000 it's still on the todo list. but no eta on when it'll get done. it's relatively easy to change the amount of replay in the code. look at the arguments to Replay() in group.c. not perfect, but it might help. Bryan On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:12:11PM -0400, James.Q.L wrote: > 1. can i do scroll back in a console more than 20/60 lines? > I found a feature request 2 years ago > (https://www.conserver.com/pipermail/users/2003-October/msg00001.html) > > giving user permission on this console log is not doable as the log belong to root and the user > may not have root previlege. From mdaigle@yorku.ca Fri Jul 29 05:18:45 2005 Received: from tweety.ccs.yorku.ca (tweety.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.216]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6TCIamR028242 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ulysses.ops.yorku.ca [130.63.237.152]) by tweety.ccs.yorku.ca (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j6TCIX1f001867 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:18:33 -0400 Message-ID: <42EA1F0F.704@yorku.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:20:31 -0400 From: Mike Daigle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Subject: Terminal Server recommendations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:18:46 -0000 We are looking at replacing the terminal servers we use for console connections. We are currently using old Cisco ASMs with no problems but you know how old those are! Any good suggestions for terminal servers that work well with Conserver, don't have Sun BREAK issues, and are well priced? -- Mike Daigle \ | | Network Operations Project Supervisor \| /\ |~ |/ Computing and Network Services | \/ | |\ Room 011 Steacie Science Library UNIVERSITY Email: mdaigle@yorku.ca 4700 Keele St. Toronto Phone: 736-2100 ext.22730 Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3 For thousands of years mankind lived just like the animals; Then something happened that unleashed the power of his imagination; He learned to talk. -- Pink Floyd From Zonker.Harris@bigbandnet.com Fri Jul 29 08:32:40 2005 Received: from CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com ([12.162.23.130]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6TFWVLb029382 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Terminal Server recommendations Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:34:19 -0700 Message-ID: <01467BEB528BFF4086CC27464B4C8BCC262BFD@CA1BBN01.bigbandnet.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Terminal Server recommendations Thread-Index: AcWUOO5cuvTtEzVXS2Ok3vRDHa9ZIQAGM5dg From: "Zonker Harris" To: "Mike Daigle" , X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id j6TFWVLb029382 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:32:40 -0000 I put the noose around the ASMs neck while I was at Cisco... write me off-list if you want gory details (or search teh archives of this list ;-) iTouch (MRV Communications) InReach gear, Cyclades TS/ACS, and Digi CM series are all close to each other in pricing, though there are feature differences that may interest you. (Some have remote power control features that integrate the power control with console access in a Java GUI...some integrate well with a second network conenction (ethernet, modem, 802.11), and more. A new, lower-cost player is OpenGear, and their CM series has recently passed BREAK testing in my test lab. (If you are interested in which other gear has been tested, please rtake a look at my console server BREAK-off pages, http://www.conserver.com/consoles/BREAK-off/breakoff.html Regards, -Z- -----Original Message----- From: Mike Daigle Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 5:21 AM To: users@conserver.com Subject: Terminal Server recommendations We are looking at replacing the terminal servers we use for console connections. We are currently using old Cisco ASMs with no problems but you know how old those are! Any good suggestions for terminal servers that work well with Conserver, don't have Sun BREAK issues, and are well priced? -- Mike Daigle \ | | Network Operations Project Supervisor \| /\ |~ |/ Computing and Network Services | \/ | |\ Room 011 Steacie Science Library UNIVERSITY Email: mdaigle@yorku.ca 4700 Keele St. Toronto Phone: 736-2100 ext.22730 Ontario, Canada M3J 1P3 For thousands of years mankind lived just like the animals; Then something happened that unleashed the power of his imagination; He learned to talk. -- Pink Floyd