From lepera@us.ibm.com Thu Jul 1 07:52:01 2004 Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com (e3.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.103]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i61EpulE018697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (northrelay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.206]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i61Epsws709232 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:51:54 -0400 Received: from d01ml251.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id i61EqYAR081870 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:52:35 -0400 To: users@conserver.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 Message-ID: From: William P LePera Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:51:10 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML251/01/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF333 | June 18, 2004) at 07/01/2004 10:51:43 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: client -i option in 7.2.4 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:52:02 -0000 I'm trying to use the client command's "-i" option in version 7.2.4, and am getting the following error (w/ debug output enabled): [root@c104l3ms05 conserver]# /opt/conserver/bin/console -i -DDDDDDDDDDDDDD console: DEBUG: File I/O: Encapsulated fd 1 type 0 console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyStringChar: tried allocating 1024 bytes console: DEBUG: buildMyStringChar: added 2 chars (2/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 7 chars (9/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyString: tried allocating 1024 bytes console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 8 chars (8/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 8 chars (8/1024 now) console: gethostbyname: console: host lookup error I also enabled debug on the server side, but did not see anything in the log file that looked significant. Any idea what could be causing this? I checked the CHANGES file on the web site, and did not see where this was reported as a problem, although it works properly in 8.1.7. The 7.2.4 version works fine otherwise. Thanks, Bill ___________________________________________________________________ Bill LePera IBM Server Group Poughkeepsie, NY From stoffel@lucent.com Fri Jul 2 09:35:24 2004 Received: from hoemail2.lucent.com (hoemail2.lucent.com [192.11.226.163]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i62GZL4A018066 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.inse.lucent.com (h152-148-10-6.lucent.com [152.148.10.6]) by hoemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i62GZG97028754 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:35:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sekrit.inse.lucent.com (sekrit.inse.lucent.com [152.148.90.85]) by alpo.inse.lucent.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15320 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from stoffel@localhost) by sekrit.inse.lucent.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i62GZFR23081; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:35:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sekrit.inse.lucent.com: stoffel set sender to stoffel@lucent.com using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:35:14 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: users@conserver.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: 7.2.2 - bug in matching host names? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:35:24 -0000 Hi Bryan, We just had an interesting problem this morning, when a server called 'orca' went down. One of the admins tried to connect to it's console using conserver. There IS an entry for another host called 'orcas', note the plural. But there isn't an entry for 'orca'. So he connected to the wrong system without noticing it. Is this a problem with the version 7.2.2 code? That 'orca' is an acceptable match for 'orcas' in the conserver.cf file? I haven't had a chance to look into the code yet, and I know I should upgrade to the 8.x stuff, so maybe we'll do that now. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel@lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548 From jac@panix.com Fri Jul 2 10:57:20 2004 Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i62HvIMK020876 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486248734; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jac@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id i62HvGq22093; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:57:16 -0700 From: John Clear To: John Stoffel Message-ID: <20040702175716.GA7930@panix.com> References: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: 7.2.2 - bug in matching host names? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:57:21 -0000 On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 12:35:14PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > > We just had an interesting problem this morning, when a server called > 'orca' went down. One of the admins tried to connect to it's console > using conserver. There IS an entry for another host called 'orcas', > note the plural. But there isn't an entry for 'orca'. So he > connected to the wrong system without noticing it. I can't find it mentioned in the manpages, but this is a 'feature'. You can truncate names on the command line as long as they are not ambiguous. $ console f console: conserver: ambiguous console abbreviation, `f' choices are fjord, frosty, frigid, freeze, flurry, flounder, falcons, fudge, flame, flare $ console fl console: conserver: ambiguous console abbreviation, `fl' choices are flurry, flounder, flame, flare $ console flam [Enter `^Ec?' for help] flame console login: [disconnect] John From stoffel@lucent.com Fri Jul 2 11:47:57 2004 Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [192.11.222.163]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i62Ilt4x022683 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.inse.lucent.com (h152-148-10-6.lucent.com [152.148.10.6]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i62IlqUx000206; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:47:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sekrit.inse.lucent.com (sekrit.inse.lucent.com [152.148.90.85]) by alpo.inse.lucent.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16771; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from stoffel@localhost) by sekrit.inse.lucent.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i62IlpZ26619; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:47:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sekrit.inse.lucent.com: stoffel set sender to stoffel@lucent.com using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16613.44503.2031.598077@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:47:50 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: John Clear In-Reply-To: <20040702175716.GA7930@panix.com> References: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20040702175716.GA7930@panix.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: John Stoffel , users@conserver.com Subject: Re: 7.2.2 - bug in matching host names? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:47:58 -0000 >>>>> "John" == John Clear writes: John> I can't find it mentioned in the manpages, but this is a 'feature'. I personally think it's a bug, since it doens't TELL you that it's expanding the name. I need to turn this feature off completely. John> You can truncate names on the command line as long as they are John> not ambiguous. Bad bad bad design. I guess I didn't realize about this feature or I would have complained before. This is the type of tool which should force you to specify exactly which console you want, and to not try and guess without telling you that. Or at least asking for a confirmation. Thanks for your help John. From kpatton@dallas.photronics.com Wed Jul 7 07:13:20 2004 Received: from scrabble.photronics.com ([192.129.97.122]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67EDHFx022299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crockett.dallas.photronics.com (crockett.dallas.photronics.com [172.16.32.42]) by scrabble.photronics.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i67E8voa027565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:08:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dallas.photronics.com ([172.16.32.64]) by crockett.dallas.photronics.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id I0HJI400.9L7 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <40EC04FC.5030906@dallas.photronics.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:13:16 -0500 From: "Keith Patton" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030711 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: console redirect issue X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:13:20 -0000 Hello all, I have a dell 1750. If I don't do console redirect from the bios all works ok. If I enable console redirect to the serial port, all comes up, but once up I can't use the console as a terminal. I must restart conserver deamon process then I'm ok.. Is there an option or something I'm missing? thanks, Keith From nhruby@uga.edu Wed Jul 7 07:31:00 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67EUtW5023020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67EUqgK029584; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:30:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i67EUqAj029580; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:30:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Keith Patton In-Reply-To: <40EC04FC.5030906@dallas.photronics.com> Message-ID: References: <40EC04FC.5030906@dallas.photronics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: console redirect issue X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:31:01 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Keith Patton wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a dell 1750. If I don't do console redirect from the bios all works ok. If I > enable console redirect to the serial port, all comes up, but once up I can't use the > console as a terminal. I must restart conserver deamon process then I'm ok.. Is there an > option or something I'm missing? > What OS is the host running? If linux, what boot loader? If Grub, disable the "redirection after post" option in BIOS as grub tries to grab the serial port which it can't do cause the BIOS has it. Else, make sure that your serial line in /etc/grub.conf does not have --console in it, else if you tap the keyboard during the bootloader or boot stages that's where the console will end up (on the keyboard/VGA device, instead of the serial console where you want it). HTH, -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From kpatton@dallas.photronics.com Wed Jul 7 08:02:14 2004 Received: from scrabble.photronics.com ([192.129.97.122]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67F28i9024227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crockett.dallas.photronics.com (crockett.dallas.photronics.com [172.16.32.42]) by scrabble.photronics.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i67Evmoa028238 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:57:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dallas.photronics.com ([172.16.32.64]) by crockett.dallas.photronics.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id I0HLRI00.DGA; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:02:06 -0500 Message-ID: <40EC106E.60409@dallas.photronics.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:02:06 -0500 From: "Keith Patton" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030711 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "nathan r. hruby" References: <40EC04FC.5030906@dallas.photronics.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: console redirect issue X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:02:15 -0000 thanks for the reply, Sorry for leaving this out, both systems are linux/ console, and remote box ( dell )..and using grub.. We have "redirection after boot" disabled, no place for "redirection after post" Currently we have, all the redirection disabled in the bios, and let grub do the redirection. All works fine..just no bios redirect.. If we turn on "redirection to serial 1", after boot still disabled, all comes up find but it screws up conserver daemon process. After the remote is alive, we can restart the daemon and then it works...Therefore, by restarting the daemon on the console we work again, indicates to us that the bios settings may be correct because you can then login. -Keith nathan r. hruby wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Keith Patton wrote: > > >>Hello all, >> >> I have a dell 1750. If I don't do console redirect from the bios all works ok. If I >>enable console redirect to the serial port, all comes up, but once up I can't use the >>console as a terminal. I must restart conserver deamon process then I'm ok.. Is there an >>option or something I'm missing? >> > > > What OS is the host running? > If linux, what boot loader? > If Grub, disable the "redirection after post" option in BIOS as grub > tries to grab the serial port which it can't do cause the BIOS has > it. > Else, make sure that your serial line in /etc/grub.conf does not have > --console in it, else if you tap the keyboard during the bootloader > or boot stages that's where the console will end up (on the > keyboard/VGA device, instead of the serial console where you want > it). > > HTH, > > -n From bryan@stansell.org Wed Jul 7 08:13:34 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67FDXkT024630 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i67FDXOu024629 for users@conserver.com; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:13:33 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040707151333.GX4947@underdog.stansell.org> References: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20040702175716.GA7930@panix.com> <16613.44503.2031.598077@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16613.44503.2031.598077@gargle.gargle.HOWL> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: 7.2.2 - bug in matching host names? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:13:34 -0000 On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:47:50PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: > I personally think it's a bug, since it doens't TELL you that it's > expanding the name. I need to turn this feature off completely. i'll work on getting an option so you can turn that off. it's not hard (at least in the 8.x.x code). heck, if you want to strip it out, you can look in conserver/master.c and conserver/group.c and do it...but you'll have to dig through the code to find the relevant bits, as it changes depending on the version. look for '"call"' in the 8.x.x world. look for 'substring' (master.c) and 'S_HOST' (group.c) in the 7.x.x world. > John> You can truncate names on the command line as long as they are > John> not ambiguous. > > Bad bad bad design. I guess I didn't realize about this feature or I > would have complained before. This is the type of tool which should > force you to specify exactly which console you want, and to not try > and guess without telling you that. well, a whole lota people like the fact that you can shortcut the name. so, kinda just depends on your outlook. > Or at least asking for a confirmation. yeah, that would be nice too. maybe something like that can be done. oh, and i'm certainly going to update the manpage so that it's documented. so, between the ability to turn it off and documenting the behavior, that should be a good start. Bryan From bryan@stansell.org Wed Jul 7 08:23:43 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67FNhmj025079 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i67FNhOV025078 for users@conserver.com; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:23:43 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040707152343.GY4947@underdog.stansell.org> References: <40EC04FC.5030906@dallas.photronics.com> <40EC106E.60409@dallas.photronics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40EC106E.60409@dallas.photronics.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: console redirect issue X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:23:44 -0000 On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 10:02:06AM -0500, Keith Patton wrote: > If we turn on "redirection to serial 1", after boot still disabled, > all comes up find but it screws up conserver daemon process. After the > remote is alive, we can restart the daemon and then it > works...Therefore, by restarting the daemon on the console we work > again, indicates to us that the bios settings may be correct because > you can then login. does the daemon become unresponsive, or just that console? if you can still connect to the console, does it come back to life after you do a '^Ecd' and then '^Eco' (which just downs the console and brings it back up). if so, then something weird is going on within the state of that one console, which helps debug where the problem is. i assume that will be the case. but, whatever the case, we'll need to turn on the debugging flags, log all this data, and wade through it to see what's going on and why it's getting confused. add "-DDD" to the conserver command line and make sure you're redirecting the output to a file. it'll make a *HUGE* pile out output. oh...another thought. how are you connecting the serial port to the conserver host? is it a local serial port or via a terminal server? it could be a software flow control issue too...if one side is set to accept software flow control, you could get a ctrl-s in one of the directions and hang up the entire thing. if you have software flow control enabled anywhere, try turning it off to see if that helps (and if resetting the console with ^Ecd/^Eco works as well, that could explain it...the drop of the connection resetting the line and the flow control). anyway, something else to think about before wading through huge amounts of debug output. Bryan From mtdolan@twinight.org Wed Jul 7 10:50:27 2004 Received: from dawn.twinight.org (dawn.twinight.org [65.39.69.132]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67HoOYN000441 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dawn.twinight.org (Postfix, from userid 2016) id E703C10CEE; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dawn.twinight.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB104B2FF for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:50:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Dolan To: users@conserver.com In-Reply-To: <20040707152343.GY4947@underdog.stansell.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: ConserverHA ? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Dolan List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:50:28 -0000 Conservers, Is there a thread or best practice anyone has come up with for HA conserver? Not connections to serial concentrators, but conserverd availability. Redundant servers, how to copy configs, monitoring, etc. Thanks, -dolan From cfowler@outpostsentinel.com Wed Jul 7 11:05:02 2004 Received: from www.linuxiceberg.com (66-23-198-2.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.198.2]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67I50hn000998 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buford.linxdev.com ([192.168.1.7]) by www.linuxiceberg.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i67I6FO21810; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:06:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (devel [127.0.0.1]) by buford.linxdev.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i67I4wH0005669; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:04:58 -0400 From: Chris Fowler To: Michael Dolan In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1089223497.5096.30.camel@devel> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 07 Jul 2004 14:04:58 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: ConserverHA ? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfowler@outpostsentinel.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:05:03 -0000 I've written my own code that uses the protocol. That is how i handle it. I have Agents that communicate to the console and distributed log files avalailble via Java RMI On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 13:50, Michael Dolan wrote: > Conservers, > > Is there a thread or best practice anyone has come up with for HA conserver? > > Not connections to serial concentrators, but conserverd availability. > Redundant servers, how to copy configs, monitoring, etc. > > Thanks, > -dolan > > > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From jcagle@gmail.com Thu Jul 8 07:42:27 2004 Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.205]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i68EgP8j020800 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id d19so143064rnf for ; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.3.58 with SMTP id 58mr239774rnc; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c904070807412c399412@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:41:57 -0500 From: John Cagle To: users@conserver.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: idletimeout in default block - bug? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:42:28 -0000 I tried out the new idlestring and idletimeout feature, but conserver doesn't like it when I put "idletimeout" in a default block of conserver.cf. It seems to only work in a console block. "idlestring", however, does work in the default block. Has anyone else seen this problem? Regards, John From stoffel@lucent.com Thu Jul 8 08:06:06 2004 Received: from hoemail2.lucent.com (hoemail2.lucent.com [192.11.226.163]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68F63tZ021684; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.inse.lucent.com (h152-148-10-6.lucent.com [152.148.10.6]) by hoemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68F60hW012661; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sekrit.inse.lucent.com (sekrit.inse.lucent.com [152.148.90.85]) by alpo.inse.lucent.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01960; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from stoffel@localhost) by sekrit.inse.lucent.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i68F5wT21758; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:05:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sekrit.inse.lucent.com: stoffel set sender to stoffel@lucent.com using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16621.25302.403432.213630@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:05:58 -0400 From: "John Stoffel" To: Bryan Stansell In-Reply-To: <20040707151333.GX4947@underdog.stansell.org> References: <16613.36546.970305.513729@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20040702175716.GA7930@panix.com> <16613.44503.2031.598077@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20040707151333.GX4947@underdog.stansell.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: 7.2.2 - bug in matching host names? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:06:07 -0000 Bryan> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 02:47:50PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: >> I personally think it's a bug, since it doens't TELL you that it's >> expanding the name. I need to turn this feature off completely. Bryan> i'll work on getting an option so you can turn that off. it's Bryan> not hard (at least in the 8.x.x code). heck, if you want to Bryan> strip it out, you can look in conserver/master.c and Bryan> conserver/group.c and do it...but you'll have to dig through Bryan> the code to find the relevant bits, as it changes depending on Bryan> the version. look for '"call"' in the 8.x.x world. look for Bryan> 'substring' (master.c) and 'S_HOST' (group.c) in the 7.x.x Bryan> world. Thanks for pointing this out, I'll see about taking a look at the 8.x codebase and see if I can hack something in there to fix this. Not sure I've got the time though... Bryan> well, a whole lota people like the fact that you can shortcut Bryan> the name. so, kinda just depends on your outlook. I'm stupid, I count on the computer to not let me be dumber than I am. Hopefully. :] In this case, it's easy to also argue that having two hosts have such similiar names is bad. It's a legacy of aquisitions and cuts in staff. Mea cupla. Bryan> yeah, that would be nice too. maybe something like that can be Bryan> done. This is a key thing to d, even if you do offer auto-completion turned on by default. Bryan> oh, and i'm certainly going to update the manpage so that it's Bryan> documented. so, between the ability to turn it off and Bryan> documenting the behavior, that should be a good start. Thanks, that would be a big help. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel@lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548 From bryan@stansell.org Thu Jul 8 08:20:54 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68FKrei022312 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i68FKr73022311 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:20:53 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040708152053.GG4947@underdog.stansell.org> References: <6863f0c904070807412c399412@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6863f0c904070807412c399412@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: idletimeout in default block - bug? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:20:54 -0000 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 09:41:57AM -0500, John Cagle wrote: > I tried out the new idlestring and idletimeout feature, but conserver > doesn't like it when I put "idletimeout" in a default block of > conserver.cf. It seems to only work in a console block. > "idlestring", however, does work in the default block. > > Has anyone else seen this problem? yep...me...just now. gack. there's a typo in the conserver/readcfg.c file. here's a patch that should fix it: *** readcfg.c.dist Tue Jun 1 16:45:47 2004 --- readcfg.c Thu Jul 8 08:18:00 2004 *************** *** 4384,4390 **** /* {"flow", DefaultItemFlow}, */ {"host", DefaultItemHost}, {"idlestring", DefaultItemIdlestring}, ! {"idletime", DefaultItemIdletimeout}, {"include", DefaultItemInclude}, {"initcmd", DefaultItemInitcmd}, {"initspinmax", DefaultItemInitspinmax}, --- 4384,4390 ---- /* {"flow", DefaultItemFlow}, */ {"host", DefaultItemHost}, {"idlestring", DefaultItemIdlestring}, ! {"idletimeout", DefaultItemIdletimeout}, {"include", DefaultItemInclude}, {"initcmd", DefaultItemInitcmd}, {"initspinmax", DefaultItemInitspinmax}, sorry about that. it'll certainly be fixed in 8.1.9. Bryan From phil@metallica.usc.edu Thu Jul 8 14:16:54 2004 Received: from metallica.usc.edu (metallica.usc.edu [128.125.10.57]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68LGq6K004938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metallica.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68LJqeL009563 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:19:52 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i68LJoJI009562 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:19:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:19:50 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040708211949.GD5367@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="25Rkvw5hS3UC+3//" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Some info on, and a question about breaks X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:16:55 -0000 --25Rkvw5hS3UC+3// Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Instead of bugging Bryan directly this time I thought I'd post to the list. I've been going through the archives to see if there is an answer to my question, and I saw a question that I can answer, so lets go ahead and get that in the archives. The sun alternate break sequence is "\\r~^b" (enter, ~, ^b) Or at least that works for me - and our suns are all set to use the alternat break sequence. Further more I've set break2 to the "default" break sequence, that being "\\r~\#" which is enter, ~, #. That works well. But for when the OS is not booted, and you need to send a serial break, I added: "\\z" as break3. However, since we're using an SSH tunnel to get from conserver to the cyclade terminal servers, that just kills the SSH session = and the conserver re-establishes it. So then I tried "\\r~\\z" but that does the same thing. How do I send a ser= ial break when I'm using an ssh tunnel from conserver to the cyclades? Thanks. --=20 Phil Dibowitz Systems Architect and Administrator Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC UCC 174 - 213-821-5427 --25Rkvw5hS3UC+3// Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7bp17lkZ1Iyv898RAk57AKCmwQCVgcKE5YGM5pK+PDJSNWIFcgCfWYkJ +V0QHHzgKfMmIv0e9VJolbw= =Dthc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --25Rkvw5hS3UC+3//-- From bryan@stansell.org Thu Jul 8 16:32:54 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i68NWsTh009759 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i68NWsAQ009758 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:32:54 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040708233254.GB25483@underdog.stansell.org> References: <20040708211949.GD5367@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040708211949.GD5367@usc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: Some info on, and a question about breaks X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:32:55 -0000 On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 02:19:50PM -0700, Phil Dibowitz wrote: > So then I tried "\\r~\\z" but that does the same thing. How do I send > a serial break when I'm using an ssh tunnel from conserver to the > cyclades? well, this is a total guess, but openssh (v2) apparently has a '~B' sequence that should trigger a break on the other side of the connection. so, i'd try that. the openssh manpage makes it sound like many things could make it fail, so cross your fingers. good luck! and if you get it to work, it would be nice to record it on the list. Bryan From bryan@stansell.org Wed Jul 14 16:32:12 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6ENWCSD026651; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6ENWCBI026650; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:32:12 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: announce@conserver.com, users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040714233212.GD7274@underdog.stansell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: conserver-8.1.9 is available X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:32:13 -0000 The CHANGES entries pretty much explain it all...enjoy! version 8.1.9 (Jul 14, 2004): - fixed bug processing access lists when duplicates exist in the list - reported by Phil Dibowitz - fixed bug where 'idletimeout' was not recognized in default blocks - reported by John Cagle - added an 'autocomplete' config option to set the console name autocompletion behavior - suggested by John Stoffel Bryan Stansell From lepera@us.ibm.com Thu Jul 15 06:34:16 2004 Received: from e5.ny.us.ibm.com (e5.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.105]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6FDXUqc001773 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 06:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (northrelay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.206]) by e5.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i6FDXPNf720208 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:33:25 -0400 Received: from d01ml251.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id i6FDXxj4078286 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:34:12 -0400 To: users@conserver.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 Message-ID: From: William P LePera Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:33:03 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML251/01/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF339 | June 21, 2004) at 07/15/2004 09:33:16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: client -i option in 7.2.4 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:34:17 -0000 Turned out to be user error...I needed to add the -M option to the command line so the client could find the conserver daemon. Works fine now. Bill ___________________________________________________________________ Bill LePera IBM Server Group Poughkeepsie, NY ----- Forwarded by William P LePera/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 07/15/2004 09:27 AM ----- William P LePera To: users@conserver.com 07/01/2004 10:51 cc: AM From: William P LePera/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS Subject: client -i option in 7.2.4 I'm trying to use the client command's "-i" option in version 7.2.4, and am getting the following error (w/ debug output enabled): [root@c104l3ms05 conserver]# /opt/conserver/bin/console -i -DDDDDDDDDDDDDD console: DEBUG: File I/O: Encapsulated fd 1 type 0 console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyStringChar: tried allocating 1024 bytes console: DEBUG: buildMyStringChar: added 2 chars (2/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 7 chars (9/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyString: tried allocating 1024 bytes console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 8 chars (8/1024 now) console: DEBUG: buildMyString: reset console: DEBUG: buildMyString: added 8 chars (8/1024 now) console: gethostbyname: console: host lookup error I also enabled debug on the server side, but did not see anything in the log file that looked significant. Any idea what could be causing this? I checked the CHANGES file on the web site, and did not see where this was reported as a problem, although it works properly in 8.1.7. The 7.2.4 version works fine otherwise. Thanks, Bill ___________________________________________________________________ Bill LePera IBM Server Group Poughkeepsie, NY From tim@buttersideup.com Mon Jul 19 07:51:31 2004 Received: from semantico.com (relayout.semantico.com [212.74.15.68]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6JEpStq019016 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spampd.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0035320181 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:51:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from buttersideup.com (anise.rp.lan [192.168.1.30]) by semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22050320181 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:51:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <40FBDFEC.1060805@buttersideup.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:51:24 +0100 From: Tim Small User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on paprika.rp.lan X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Conserver + IPMI/Serial Over LAN X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:51:32 -0000 Hi all, Using a small expect script as glue, I've managed to plug conserver into Intel's "dpcproxy" program, which lets you speak their Serial Over LAN (sol) protocol to Intel motherboards with IPMI (such as the Intel SE7501WV2, which I understand is also used by some of Sun's "SunFire" Xeon servers). I have used this to implement serial consoles + serial BIOS on a half rack of servers, with only ethernet, and power connections to each machine - no serial concentrators or serial cabling required (!) - IPMI also gives you remote power on/off, and hardware health stuff, amongst other things. If anyone is interested, I've posted the glue script here: http://buttersideup.com/docs/howto/IPMI_on_Debian_files/ as part of this howto: http://buttersideup.com/docs/howto/IPMI_on_Debian.html Any comments welcome! Ta, Tim. From chi-tai.yang@rbccm.com Mon Jul 26 13:40:29 2004 Received: from mx2.rbccm.com (mx2.rbccm.com [198.96.134.238]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QKeRWT004792 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CATOAFS102.oak.fg.rbc.com ([192.64.160.106]) by mx2.rbccm.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from sew39000.oak.fg.rbc.com (unverified [159.55.57.11]) by CATOAFS102.oak.fg.rbc.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from sew39031.oak.fg.rbc.com ([159.55.153.2]) by sew39000.oak.fg.rbc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC (5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:27 -0400 Received: from sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com ([159.55.153.13]) by sew39031.oak.fg.rbc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC (5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:27 -0400 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6489.0 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:26 -0400 Message-ID: <6D21431E4ED1C8438D8317AEC0F8CA5A1C1256@sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage Thread-Index: AcRzUMhEm99Ik3mDSCKJ/2ZotXw4zg== From: "Yang, Chi-Tai" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2004 20:40:27.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[C86A63D0:01C47350] X-Spam-Score: -4.801 () BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id i6QKeRWT004792 Subject: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:40:30 -0000 Using Ctrl-e-c-l-0 to send break works fine when Solaris machine booted up to either single user or multi-user mode. However, when SunSPARC is with its booting up stage (with cursor spinning), the same key stroke sequence can only not send break to it. We can get around with Ctrl-e-c-l-3 to get to host with LOM. But for hosts without LOM, our choices are either to disable conserver or power-cycle SunSPARC. I searched the archive and found several similar questions but not the right answer as to where Ctrl-e-c-l-0 (break 0) is defined. We upgrade from 7.2.7 to 8.1.4, found out about this problem, then found 8.1.8 which said to fix break problem - Yet still we still have the same issue even with version 8.1.8. Here is our configuration: break 1 { string "\z"; } break 2 { string "\r\d~\d^b"; delay 200; } break 3 { string "#."; } default sun-std { break 1; } default sun-alt { break 2; } default sun-lom { break 3; } Please help. Thanks. Chi-Tai Yang 212-858-7074 chi-tai.yang@rbccm.com

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 From sommerfeld@east.sun.com Mon Jul 26 14:00:31 2004 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QL0S4n005529 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.9.49]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6QL0R0R011221; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thunk.east.sun.com (thunk.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.66]) by eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i6QL0Rcc014546; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunk.east.sun.com (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6QL0RaP004392; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407262100.i6QL0RaP004392@thunk.east.sun.com> From: Bill Sommerfeld To: "Yang, Chi-Tai" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:40:26 EDT." <6D21431E4ED1C8438D8317AEC0F8CA5A1C1256@sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:00:27 -0400 Sender: sommerfeld@east.sun.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:31 -0000 > Using Ctrl-e-c-l-0 to send break works fine when Solaris machine > booted up to either single user or multi-user mode. However, when > SunSPARC is with its booting up stage (with cursor spinning), the > same key stroke sequence can only not send break to it. So, my first reaction was that the problem is not that break isn't being sent, but rather that break isn't being received and acted on. There are windows early during POST/OBP startup when a Sun SPARC system simply cannot respond immediately to a break (because OBP isn't ready yet). The same does not appear to be true during the OS load.. Can you be specific about the hardware platform and solaris version you're using, and include a transcript of the boot sequence showing the specific points at which break isn't working for you? Also, what sort of terminal server are you using? From phil@metallica.usc.edu Mon Jul 26 14:08:43 2004 Received: from metallica.usc.edu (metallica.usc.edu [128.125.10.57]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QL8frI005876 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metallica.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QLCOm8020673; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:12:24 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6QLCNnh020672; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:12:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:12:23 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz To: Bill Sommerfeld Message-ID: <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> References: <6D21431E4ED1C8438D8317AEC0F8CA5A1C1256@sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com> <200407262100.i6QL0RaP004392@thunk.east.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407262100.i6QL0RaP004392@thunk.east.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:08:44 -0000 --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:00:27PM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > Using Ctrl-e-c-l-0 to send break works fine when Solaris machine > > booted up to either single user or multi-user mode. However, when > > SunSPARC is with its booting up stage (with cursor spinning), the > > same key stroke sequence can only not send break to it. >=20 > So, my first reaction was that the problem is not that break isn't > being sent, but rather that break isn't being received and acted on. >=20 > There are windows early during POST/OBP startup when a Sun SPARC > system simply cannot respond immediately to a break (because OBP isn't > ready yet). The same does not appear to be true during the OS load.. >=20 > Can you be specific about the hardware platform and solaris version > you're using, and include a transcript of the boot sequence showing > the specific points at which break isn't working for you? =20 >=20 > Also, what sort of terminal server are you using? I experience the same problem on lots of suns late hardware, early OS I can= 't get a break through conserver. I'm told sending a break from directly connected works... but I've yet to see evidence of this -- though my co-workers like to blame conserver. =3D) --=20 Phil Dibowitz Systems Architect and Administrator Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC UCC 174 - 213-821-5427 --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBXO37lkZ1Iyv898RAkk6AKCLNwxIXwwfxdGHhjUG/rlpaBpOJACgvvdY 0E0FGJCJEnvU1H1EImGyhU8= =IFTq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k9xkV0rc9XGsukaG-- From sommerfeld@east.sun.com Mon Jul 26 14:23:20 2004 Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QLNISB006423 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.9.49]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i6QLNHil008702; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:23:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thunk.east.sun.com (thunk.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.66]) by eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i6QLNHcc018955; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunk.east.sun.com (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i6QLNGWv004533; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> From: Bill Sommerfeld To: Phil Dibowitz In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:12:23 PDT." <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:23:16 -0400 Sender: sommerfeld@east.sun.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:23:21 -0000 > I experience the same problem on lots of suns late hardware, early OS I can= > 't > get a break through conserver. I'm told sending a break from directly > connected works... but I've yet to see evidence of this -- though my > co-workers like to blame conserver. =3D) Can you be precise about hardware platforms and OS versions? I have access to internal test labs with a wide variety of hardware and I therefore could waste a lot of time failing to reproduce this.... :-) - Bill From phil@metallica.usc.edu Mon Jul 26 15:11:46 2004 Received: from metallica.usc.edu (metallica.usc.edu [128.125.10.57]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QMBgMs008134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metallica.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QMFV3N020805; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:15:31 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i6QMFV3c020804; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:15:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:15:31 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz To: Bill Sommerfeld Message-ID: <20040726221531.GL19709@usc.edu> References: <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bPg9NdpM9EETxvqt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:11:47 -0000 --bPg9NdpM9EETxvqt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:23:16PM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > I experience the same problem on lots of suns late hardware, early OS I= can=3D > > 't > > get a break through conserver. I'm told sending a break from directly > > connected works... but I've yet to see evidence of this -- though my > > co-workers like to blame conserver. =3D3D) >=20 > Can you be precise about hardware platforms and OS versions? =20 >=20 > I have access to internal test labs with a wide variety of hardware > and I therefore could waste a lot of time failing to reproduce > this.... :-) V240, Solaris 9. V440 as well. Thanks. =3D) --=20 Phil Dibowitz Systems Architect and Administrator Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC UCC 174 - 213-821-5427 --bPg9NdpM9EETxvqt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBYKD7lkZ1Iyv898RAiM2AKDNShvtN9WW2e4TSLProAB6ZfQdxwCcChYP b9DLP/v7QayGbPU5TYQIc8s= =NBcO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bPg9NdpM9EETxvqt-- From chi-tai.yang@rbccm.com Mon Jul 26 15:20:11 2004 Received: from mx2.rbccm.com (mx2.rbccm.com [198.96.134.238]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QMK9AM008462 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CATOAFS102.oak.fg.rbc.com ([192.64.160.106]) by mx2.rbccm.com with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:20:07 -0400 Received: from sew39001.oak.fg.rbc.com (unverified [159.55.57.12]) by CATOAFS102.oak.fg.rbc.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:20:07 -0400 Received: from sew39031.oak.fg.rbc.com ([159.55.153.2]) by sew39001.oak.fg.rbc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC (5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:20:07 -0400 Received: from sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com ([159.55.153.13]) by sew39031.oak.fg.rbc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC (5.0.2195.6747); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:20:07 -0400 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6489.0 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:20:07 -0400 Message-ID: <6D21431E4ED1C8438D8317AEC0F8CA5A1C1258@sew39033.oak.fg.rbc.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage Thread-Index: AcRzU5qmpUKY/g5DQZC4IvJ1cN7kegABRsfA From: "Yang, Chi-Tai" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2004 22:20:07.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[B501A340:01C4735E] X-Spam-Score: -4.801 () BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id i6QMK9AM008462 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:20:12 -0000 In deed, break was not being received and acted on. If I were to kill conserver and telnet , I can use Ctrl-], then type "send break" and get to OK prompt (right after the cusor spinning POST stage, of course). Terminal Server: Cisco 3640 Sun model: V100 (this is the model I can test now). I ran into problem with V210 as well. V240, V440 might be the same. O/S version: all Solaris 8, patch level: 117000-03 Here is the screen shot: I have done it twice: ^MInitializing Memory -^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^ H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H -^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H- ^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H- ^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H ^M ^MExecuting last command: boot^ M Boot device: disk2 File and args: ^M [-- break #0(3) sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:04:42 2004]^M ^Mlom> ^Mlom>break ^M^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^Hconfiguring IPv4 interfac es: dmfe0.^M Hostname: v100spare1^M metainit: v100spare1: there are no existing databases^M ^M NOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link up 100 Mbps Half-Duplex^M NOTICE: dmfe1: PHY 1 link down^M [-- break #0(3) sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:05:12 2004]^M ^Mlom> ^Mlom>^C ^Mlom>l2 ^MInvalid command. Type 'help' for list of commands. ^Mlom>console ^MervNOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link down^M NOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link up 100 Mbps Full-Duplex^M ypbind done.^M ====> It looks like break 0 has the same effect as break 3 which went to LOM. Here is the second time: ok boot^M Res ^MLOM event: +372d+20h28m29s host reset ^Metting ... ^M ^M [-- break #1 sent -- `\z' -- Mon Jul 26 18:06:54 2004]^M [-- break #2 sent -- `\r\d~\d^b' -- Mon Jul 26 18:06:57 2004]^M [-- break #3 sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:06:59 2004]^M ^Mlom> ^Mlom>console ^M^M Sun Fire V100 (UltraSPARC-IIe 500MHz), No Keyboard^M OpenBoot 4.0, 512 MB memory installed, Serial #51807461.^M Ethernet address 0:3:ba:16:84:e5, Host ID: 831684e5.^M ^M Initializing Memory -^H^M ^MInitializing Memory -^H^M ^MInitializing Memory /^H/^H/^H-^H^M ^MInitializing Memory \^H\^H\^H-^H^M ^MInitializing Memory -^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H -^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^ H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H^M ^MInitializing Memory -^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^ H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H- ^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H-^H ^M ^M [-- break #2 sent -- `\r\d~\d^b' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:21 2004]^M Executing last command: boot^M Boot device: disk2 File and args: ^M [-- break #3 sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:24 2004]^M ^Mlom> ^Mlom>console ^M^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/ ^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H |^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H[-- break #1 sent -- `\z' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:28 2 004]^M -^H^MSunOS Release 5.8 Version Generic_108528-21 64-bit^M Copyright 1983-2003 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.^M \^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^ H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H [-- break #0(3) sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:31 2004]^M ^Mlom>con^H ^H^H ^H^H ^Hbreak ^M^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H2^M configuring IPv4 interfaces: dmfe0.^M Hostname: v100spare1^M metainit: v100spare1: there are no existing databases^M ^M NOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link up 100 Mbps Half-Duplex^M NOTICE: dmfe1: PHY 1 link down^M [-- break #3 sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:54 2004]^M ^Mlom> ^Mlom>console ^M[-- break #1 sent -- `\z' -- Mon Jul 26 18:07:58 2004]^M \377\363The system is coming up. Please wait.^M ^M NIS domainname is neutrino.com^M Forcing interface dmfe0 to Full Duplex 100^M starting rpc services:NOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link down^M rpcbind keyservNOTICE: dmfe0: PHY 1 link up 100 Mbps Full-Duplex^M [-- break #0(3) sent -- `#.' -- Mon Jul 26 18:08:05 2004]^M ^Mlom>console ^M----|^M ^M v100spare1 console login: :^H ^H[-- root@consrv detached -- Mon Jul 26 18:09:27 2004]^M Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: sommerfeld@east.sun.com [mailto:sommerfeld@east.sun.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:00 PM To: Yang, Chi-Tai Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage > Using Ctrl-e-c-l-0 to send break works fine when Solaris machine > booted up to either single user or multi-user mode. However, when > SunSPARC is with its booting up stage (with cursor spinning), the > same key stroke sequence can only not send break to it. So, my first reaction was that the problem is not that break isn't being sent, but rather that break isn't being received and acted on. There are windows early during POST/OBP startup when a Sun SPARC system simply cannot respond immediately to a break (because OBP isn't ready yet). The same does not appear to be true during the OS load.. Can you be specific about the hardware platform and solaris version you're using, and include a transcript of the boot sequence showing the specific points at which break isn't working for you? Also, what sort of terminal server are you using?

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