From Albert.White@Sun.COM Fri Aug 13 06:47:28 2004 Received: from nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (nwkea-mail-2.sun.com [192.18.42.14]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7DDlQCe014789 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phys-eris-2 ([129.156.85.26]) by nwkea-mail-2.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7DDlP0R015928 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.eris-mail1.uk.sun.com by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0I2E00K010VI7D@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> (original mail from Albert.White@Sun.COM) for users@conserver.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:47:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from sun.com (sionnach.Ireland.Sun.COM [129.156.237.160]) by eris-mail1.uk.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I2E000KR0Z1X7@eris-mail1.uk.sun.com> for users@conserver.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:47:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:45:56 +0100 From: Albert White To: users@conserver.com Message-id: <411CC614.6070707@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040212) X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: linux virtual terminals (ALT+F2 etc.) through conserver. X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:47:29 -0000 Hi folks, With a screen and keyboard you can access the virtual terminals on a linux box by pressing ALT+F2 etc. I'm assuming that this functionality is availble though the serial console also (perhaps a flawed assumption, I dont understand how or if linux maps tty[0-9] to the serial console.) Assuming it is, does anyone know how to send ALT+F2 through conserver? Just pressing ALT+F2 unsurprisingly usualy causes something on my desktop to change, and I have tried adding various break sequences of (im still on conserver 7): BREAK5=\00\151 BREAK6=\33\151 but this does not work. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks, ~Al From Adam.Morris@providence.org Fri Aug 13 07:51:22 2004 Received: from phsornt422.or.providence.org (phsor-nat2.providence.org [170.220.2.14]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7DEpLxs019076 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PickupDirectory by phsornt422.or.providence.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QTAHJWYS; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:49:48 -0700 Received: from phsorcon06.or.providence.org ([170.220.78.187]) by phsornt422.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:49:47 -0700 Received: from phsormsg06.or.providence.org ([170.220.73.87]) by phsorcon06.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:51:20 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:51:19 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: linux virtual terminals (ALT+F2 etc.) through conserver. Thread-Index: AcSBPJ0V7xaHCD6xS3akDbQtoks72gAB5rfg From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2004 14:51:20.0007 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE753570:01C48144] X-Spam-Score: -4.562 () BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id i7DEpLxs019076 Cc: Subject: RE: linux virtual terminals (ALT+F2 etc.) through conserver. X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:51:23 -0000 Greetings Albert, No, this functionality would not be available through Conserver as far as I am aware. The Virtual Consoles on Linux are only available at the keyboard/monitor attached to the system. If you want to use this functionality then you should look into the use of a KVM instead (We use Avocent KVM over IP for Windows/Linux servers, and it works fairly well). As an alternative, you can log in to the serial console using conserver and then run the screen program. This will allow you to multiplex several programs onto the one physical "terminal". Check the manual page for screen for full details of how it works. I hope that this helps, Adam -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com]On Behalf Of Albert White Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:46 AM To: users@conserver.com Subject: linux virtual terminals (ALT+F2 etc.) through conserver. Hi folks, With a screen and keyboard you can access the virtual terminals on a linux box by pressing ALT+F2 etc. I'm assuming that this functionality is availble though the serial console also (perhaps a flawed assumption, I dont understand how or if linux maps tty[0-9] to the serial console.) Assuming it is, does anyone know how to send ALT+F2 through conserver? Just pressing ALT+F2 unsurprisingly usualy causes something on my desktop to change, and I have tried adding various break sequences of (im still on conserver 7): BREAK5=\00\151 BREAK6=\33\151 but this does not work. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks, ~Al _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From mtdolan@twinight.org Sat Aug 14 08:17:44 2004 Received: from dawn.twinight.org (dawn.twinight.org [65.39.69.132]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7EFHgl5000108 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dawn.twinight.org (Postfix, from userid 2016) id 63CCA10E84; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dawn.twinight.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D35EB3C4 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Dolan To: users@conserver.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:17:45 -0000 Conservers, While we are on the topic of linux consoles, in particular blade servers, that is, a chassis stuffed full of individual blades hosting a cpu (or two), disk, etc. The group managing the blade setup claims that the only way to access the 'console' is through a web browser/java applet. This is quite cumbersome, slow, and requires a GUI environment. And worse yet, cant integrate into conserver :) Is there not a serial-like console access available to access the individual consoles of each blade? Realizing they are all virtualized with in the blade chassis, the implementation is probably vendor dependent. It seems draconian to force a admin to access a simple tty environment through a slow and cumbersome GUI. Maybe what I'm looking for is a the telnet / ssh environment to access the blade chassis controller? At present, we are using HP's blade centers. thanks, -dolan From tim@buttersideup.com Mon Aug 16 03:15:33 2004 Received: from semantico.com (fw1-inet.semantico.com [212.74.15.68]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GAFUZb001159 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 03:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spampd.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA163202F9; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:15:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from buttersideup.com (tandf2-visible.anise.rp.lan [192.168.1.30]) by semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1401A3202F9; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:15:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4120893D.6000804@buttersideup.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:15:25 +0100 From: Tim Small User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Dolan , users@conserver.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on paprika.rp.lan X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:15:34 -0000 Michael Dolan wrote: >The group managing the blade setup claims that the only way to access the >'console' is through a web browser/java applet. This is quite cumbersome, >slow, and requires a GUI environment. And worse yet, cant integrate into >conserver :) Is there not a serial-like console access available to access >the individual consoles of each blade? > This depends entirely on how HP have implemented the console access, which means you will probably have to do some detective work (e.g. sniffin the network, spying on the console client, etc.). If it is IPMI, then see this: http://buttersideup.com/docs/howto/IPMI_on_Debian.html If it's not IPMI, then it's probably real serial lines, and you will have to work out how to get at them.. Tim. From Adam.Morris@providence.org Mon Aug 16 07:41:36 2004 Received: from phsornt422.or.providence.org (phsor-nat2.providence.org [170.220.2.14]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GEfZZw018978 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PickupDirectory by phsornt422.or.providence.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Q7LW3MHL; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:40:00 -0700 Received: from wn0034.or.providence.org ([170.220.78.17]) by phsornt422.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:39:59 -0700 Importance: normal Priority: normal Received: from phsormsg06.or.providence.org ([170.220.73.87]) by wn0034.or.providence.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:41:31 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 07:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: linux blades, serial access thread-index: AcSDel1hH1D5dA+OT0COwsDjbqAfGQAI2B1g From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2004 14:41:31.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EACB410:01C4839F] X-Spam-Score: -4.562 () BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by underdog.stansell.org id i7GEfZZw018978 Cc: Subject: RE: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:41:38 -0000 Considering that these are HP blades, it might be the case that they have reused their Secure Web Console software/hardware to provide the terminal access. I don't know what protocol this uses, but it's better than nothing for remote access, but not as good as conserver. Hopefully you'll be able to find out more if this is what it is using. I hope that this helps, Adam -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com]On Behalf Of Tim Small Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 3:15 AM To: Michael Dolan; users@conserver.com Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access Michael Dolan wrote: >The group managing the blade setup claims that the only way to access the >'console' is through a web browser/java applet. This is quite cumbersome, >slow, and requires a GUI environment. And worse yet, cant integrate into >conserver :) Is there not a serial-like console access available to access >the individual consoles of each blade? > This depends entirely on how HP have implemented the console access, which means you will probably have to do some detective work (e.g. sniffin the network, spying on the console client, etc.). If it is IPMI, then see this: http://buttersideup.com/docs/howto/IPMI_on_Debian.html If it's not IPMI, then it's probably real serial lines, and you will have to work out how to get at them.. Tim. _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@conserver.com https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the sole use of the addressee, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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From tim@buttersideup.com Mon Aug 16 09:05:38 2004 Received: from semantico.com (relayout.semantico.com [212.74.15.68]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GG5ZAg024610 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 09:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spampd.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CFC320147; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:05:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from buttersideup.com (anise.rp.lan [192.168.1.30]) by semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3E4320147; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:05:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4120DB4D.9080103@buttersideup.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:05:33 +0100 From: Tim Small User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam.Morris@providence.org, users@conserver.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on paprika.rp.lan X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:05:38 -0000 Adam.Morris@providence.org wrote: >Considering that these are HP blades, it might be the case that they have reused their Secure Web Console software/hardware to provide the terminal access. I don't know what protocol this uses, but it's better than nothing for remote access, but not as good as conserver. Hopefully you'll be able to find out more if this is what it is using. > > > I've not used "Secure Web Console", but it may be that it is implemented using IPMI, since according to HP: "IPMI was initially co-developed by Hewlett-Packard and Intel ® and has been enhanced by NEC and Dell." It would be interesting to find out tho'... Tim. From sommerfeld@east.sun.com Mon Aug 16 11:15:15 2004 Received: from nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (nwkea-mail-1.sun.com [192.18.42.13]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GIFDeN003274 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastmail2bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.13.40]) by nwkea-mail-1.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i7GIFC4d025750; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thunk.east.sun.com (thunk.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.66]) by eastmail2bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i7GIFB86006269; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunk.east.sun.com (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i7GIFBqc010677; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200408161815.i7GIFBqc010677@thunk.east.sun.com> From: Bill Sommerfeld To: Michael Dolan In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:17:42 EDT." Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:15:11 -0400 Sender: sommerfeld@east.sun.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:15:16 -0000 > Realizing they are all virtualized with in the blade chassis, the > implementation is probably vendor dependent. Yup. As an alternate example, Sun's B1600 blade shelf has a system controller which allows you to have remote telnet access to a serial port on each blade. For the x86-based blades, the blade's BIOS will talk to that serial port and the only tricky bit to setup is that you need to set up a PXE-boot server such that the OS (solaris/linux/...) netboot-based install comes up with the console on the serial port. - Bill From jcagle@gmail.com Mon Aug 16 15:22:16 2004 Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7GMMD6R019630 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so137087rnl for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.208.10 with SMTP id f10mr77183rng; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c904081615216b12623f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:21:20 -0500 From: John Cagle To: Michael Dolan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Cagle List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:22:17 -0000 On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT), Michael Dolan wrote: > The group managing the blade setup claims that the only way to access the > 'console' is through a web browser/java applet. This is quite cumbersome, > slow, and requires a GUI environment. And worse yet, cant integrate into > conserver :) Is there not a serial-like console access available to access > the individual consoles of each blade? > Maybe what I'm looking for is a the telnet / ssh environment to access the > blade chassis controller? > > At present, we are using HP's blade centers. All of the ProLiant BL p-Class blades (BL20p, BL20pG2, BL30p) have iLO (Integrated Lights Out) embedded management processors. iLO provides a full remote graphical (and text) remote console as well as remote virtual media (USB floppy/cd-rom emulation). iLO also supports a "virtual serial port". For more information on iLO's capabilities (which are quite numerous) please refer to this web page: http://tinyurl.com/5qbcq iLO supports both Telnet and SSH sessions for remote text consoles and remote virtual serial consoles (which works a lot better for logging). I've successfully configured conserver to front-end both types of connections. A key thing to remember is that iLO is very security-conscious and Telnet is disabled by default (since it is unencrypted). You'll need to access the web page and enable it. If you have a *lot* of blades, you can use an XML script to change iLO's configuration (which is a lot easier than going to each blade). The 1.60 version of iLO firmware also includes a command line interface that is accessible from Telnet or SSH. The CLI provides commands for controlling power, rebooting, turning the blue LED on or off, etc. I have some config files for conserver that use expect to automate the login to iLO (for both remote video console sessions as well as remote virtual serial console sessions). I'll be happy to send them to you if you're interested. Better yet, maybe someone could put them on the conserver website? Regards, John From tim@buttersideup.com Tue Aug 17 03:35:14 2004 Received: from semantico.com (relayout.semantico.com [212.74.15.68]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HAZB3C012511 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spampd.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9218320018 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:35:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from buttersideup.com (anise.rp.lan [192.168.1.30]) by semantico.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2A9320018 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:35:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4121DF5D.30505@buttersideup.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:35:09 +0100 From: Tim Small User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com References: <6863f0c904081615216b12623f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6863f0c904081615216b12623f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on paprika.rp.lan X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: linux blades, serial access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:35:15 -0000 John Cagle wrote: >iLO supports both Telnet and SSH sessions for remote text consoles and >remote virtual serial consoles (which works a lot better for logging). > I've successfully configured conserver to front-end both types of >connections. A key thing to remember is that iLO is very >security-conscious and Telnet is disabled by default (since it is >unencrypted). > It should be possible to use ssh from conserver (easy if the iLO interface supports access with ssh keys, slightly more tricky otherwise) - you could probably build something quite easily by modifying the files (the solsession expect script, and the example conserver.cf) at: http://buttersideup.com/docs/howto/IPMI_on_Debian_files/ If anyone manages this, it would be cool if they could post the results somewhere - I'm going to have to write such scripts for HP iLO boxes myself in a couple of weeks' time for some new HP servers... BTW, I'm happy for the IPMI SOL stuff that I wrote, to go into the contrib/ directory if it's useful - if the licensing (GPL) is a problem, I'm happy to BSD dual-license it. Tim. From kenneth@cybermind.com.hk Tue Aug 17 05:27:06 2004 Received: from mail.hkes.com (hkes.com [203.194.205.6]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HCR24q020160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 05:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2042 invoked by uid 522); 17 Aug 2004 20:26:58 +0800 Received: from kenneth@cybermind.com.hk by hkes.com by uid 522 with qmail-scanner-1.22st (HKES MailArmor System Clear:RC:1(210.245.154.6):. Processed in 0.018259 secs); 17 Aug 2004 12:26:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kleenotebook) (kenneth@klch.com@210.245.154.6) by hkes.com (HKES MailArmor System) with SMTP; 17 Aug 2004 20:26:57 +0800 Message-ID: <005e01c48455$7d1aee20$8200a8c0@kleenotebook> From: "Kenneth Lee" To: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:26:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Spam-Score: -0.734 () BAYES_10 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Centralized console logs X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:27:07 -0000 Dear all, I currently have multiple conservers running on remote sites, is there any way to redirect the remote console logs to a master machine instead of having them stored on the slaves? I have a console log watcher application but it only works on a machine with conserver installed. If I can centralize the logs I can use it to monitor all remote devices. I thought I could use kind of remote file system like NFS to mount the remote log directory but I'm sure there're better solutions. Any idea? Many thanks, Kenneth From Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at Tue Aug 17 06:20:27 2004 Received: from smtp.uibk.ac.at (lmr1.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.142]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HDKM6j023685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 06:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [138.232.3.187] (red-c102.uibk.ac.at [138.232.3.187]) by smtp.uibk.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/F1) with ESMTP id i7HDKKvD006207 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:20:20 +0200 Message-ID: <41220614.2010105@uibk.ac.at> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:20:20 +0200 From: Michael Redinger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 at uibk.ac.at Subject: Conserver with Comtrol RocketPort X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:20:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, has anyone tested the Comtrol RocketPort uPCI 32-port card with conserver? I am planning to use 2 of these cards in a 1U server and use it as console server. Or are there any other uPCI cards which support at least 32 Ports (1U rack mounted)? I know the Cyclades-Y series card, but it is only available as 32-bit PCI card (not uPCI) - this means that I would not be able to put 2 of them in our 1U servers. (Yes, there is the Perle RIO, but the rack mount concentrators only have 16 ports, and it is more expensive.) (We currently have several Cyclades-TS2000, but as we need more consoles and I am not really satisfied with Cyclades, I want to use conserver with standard hardware this time.) Thanks, Michael - -- Michael Redinger Zentraler Informatikdienst (Computer Centre) Universitaet Innsbruck Technikerstrasse 13 Tel.: ++43 512 507 2335 6020 Innsbruck Fax.: ++43 512 507 2944 Austria Mail: Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at BB98 D2FE 0F2C 2658 3780 3CB1 0FD7 A9D9 65C2 C11D http://www.uibk.ac.at/~c102mr/mred-pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBIgYTD9ep2WXCwR0RAo2EAJ9BkcU0tWxv9aVAkT0svp8Bj2HyfwCgqrr8 zigaLi4O3PD8j1d0ijTWCLE= =n0rh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jcagle@gmail.com Tue Aug 17 12:24:26 2004 Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HJOO8l018066 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 73so183457rnl for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.102.15 with SMTP id z15mr205015rnb; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6863f0c9040817122453ee67e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 14:24:21 -0500 From: John Cagle To: users@conserver.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: iLO refresh escape sequence X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Cagle List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:24:26 -0000 I'm using conserver to monitor the ProLiant's iLO video console, and I need conserver to send an escape sequence _every_time_ someone attaches to the console for an iLO server (either in read-write or read-only mode). (Since iLO's video console (different from its serial over LAN console) uses screen-scraping, the escape sequence ESC [ ~ tells iLO to repaint the screen.) I know I could do this with initcmd (if I make the console 'ondemand'), but I don't want to use ondemand -- I want conserver to constantly log the ilo console. Is there any way to do this? Thanks, John From nhruby@uga.edu Tue Aug 17 12:45:22 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HJjG3N019537 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7HJjGtj032143; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:45:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i7HJjF9D032139; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:45:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:45:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Michael Redinger In-Reply-To: <41220614.2010105@uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: References: <41220614.2010105@uibk.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver with Comtrol RocketPort X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 19:45:22 -0000 On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Michael Redinger wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > has anyone tested the Comtrol RocketPort uPCI 32-port card with conserver? > I am planning to use 2 of these cards in a 1U server and use it as > console server. > > Or are there any other uPCI cards which support at least 32 Ports (1U > rack mounted)? > I know the Cyclades-Y series card, but it is only available as 32-bit > PCI card (not uPCI) - this means that I would not be able to put 2 of > them in our 1U servers. > (Yes, there is the Perle RIO, but the rack mount concentrators only have > 16 ports, and it is more expensive.) > The Ze cards (PCI only) support up to 64 ports per card, with the gotcha that each 16 port breakout box consumes and additional 1U and you need to buy an additional power supply for the 3rd and 4th breakout boxes. FWIW, I'm happy with my Ze's as well as my TS's. What particular problems have you had? -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at Wed Aug 18 02:05:21 2004 Received: from smtp.uibk.ac.at (lmr1.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.142]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7I93dcl016111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [138.232.3.187] (red-c102.uibk.ac.at [138.232.3.187]) by smtp.uibk.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/F1) with ESMTP id i7I93bvD004007 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:03:38 +0200 Message-ID: <41231B69.6060708@uibk.ac.at> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:03:37 +0200 From: Michael Redinger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com References: <41220614.2010105@uibk.ac.at> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 at uibk.ac.at Subject: Re: Conserver with Comtrol RocketPort X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:05:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 nathan r. hruby wrote: | On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Michael Redinger wrote: | |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> Hello, |> |> has anyone tested the Comtrol RocketPort uPCI 32-port card with |> conserver? |> I am planning to use 2 of these cards in a 1U server and use it as |> console server. |> |> Or are there any other uPCI cards which support at least 32 Ports (1U |> rack mounted)? |> I know the Cyclades-Y series card, but it is only available as 32-bit |> PCI card (not uPCI) - this means that I would not be able to put 2 of |> them in our 1U servers. |> (Yes, there is the Perle RIO, but the rack mount concentrators only have |> 16 ports, and it is more expensive.) |> | | The Ze cards (PCI only) support up to 64 ports per card, with the gotcha | that each 16 port breakout box consumes and additional 1U and you need to | buy an additional power supply for the 3rd and 4th breakout boxes. Same problem as with the Y series - it is PCI only. I do not know any modern 1U server where you can use 2 PCI cards (2 uPCI are ok). | FWIW, I'm happy with my Ze's as well as my TS's. What particular problems | have you had? Well, I did not have any particular problems - it's just that a solution using a standard Linux server and console seems much better ... The TS are slow (especially the ssh connections) and too expensive. I had to write some (very strange) scripts to get a functionality similar to a "normal" Linux box (eg. for log rotation) and it lacks many standard tools (I do not want to have to cross-compile every little utility myself). Conserver also seems much better regarding the core console functionality and it seems easier to manage. Ever tried to find out to which of your 5 console servers a particular host is attached? I wrote some scripts to do this (that was before I heard of conserver). Of course I will still use our existing console servers (integrating them with conserver seems easy enough), but for a new system conserver + ~ 1U server + 2 RocketPort 32-port cards seems to be the better solution. Michael - -- Michael Redinger Zentraler Informatikdienst (Computer Centre) Universitaet Innsbruck Technikerstrasse 13 Tel.: ++43 512 507 2335 6020 Innsbruck Fax.: ++43 512 507 2944 Austria Mail: Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at BB98 D2FE 0F2C 2658 3780 3CB1 0FD7 A9D9 65C2 C11D http://www.uibk.ac.at/~c102mr/mred-pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBIxtpD9ep2WXCwR0RArYBAKDLf1Xt1rVWCr0AkwbNVKdFy5CgLQCg6VDY 1sBoEGjgEQFLD2SpkTr1WRk= =fqu4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nhruby@uga.edu Wed Aug 18 05:34:14 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7ICY6Rb000226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 05:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7ICY6Id004607; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:34:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i7ICY6Ke004603; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:34:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Michael Redinger In-Reply-To: <41231B69.6060708@uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: References: <41220614.2010105@uibk.ac.at> <41231B69.6060708@uibk.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver with Comtrol RocketPort X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:34:14 -0000 On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Michael Redinger wrote: > nathan r. hruby wrote: > | On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Michael Redinger wrote: > | > |> Or are there any other uPCI cards which support at least 32 Ports (1U > |> rack mounted)? > |> I know the Cyclades-Y series card, but it is only available as 32-bit > |> PCI card (not uPCI) - this means that I would not be able to put 2 of > |> them in our 1U servers. > |> (Yes, there is the Perle RIO, but the rack mount concentrators only have > |> 16 ports, and it is more expensive.) > |> > | > | The Ze cards (PCI only) support up to 64 ports per card, with the gotcha > | that each 16 port breakout box consumes and additional 1U and you need to > | buy an additional power supply for the 3rd and 4th breakout boxes. > > Same problem as with the Y series - it is PCI only. I do not know any > modern 1U server where you can use 2 PCI cards (2 uPCI are ok). > I don't know what uPCI us. I figured that if you wanted (2) 32 port cards, (1) 64 port PCI card might fit the bill as well, as everything still has a PCI slot (granted, they are getting a bit harder to find :) In the end, it's whatever you want :) > | FWIW, I'm happy with my Ze's as well as my TS's. What particular problems > | have you had? > > Well, I did not have any particular problems - it's just that a solution > using a standard Linux server and console seems much better ... > The TS are slow (especially the ssh connections) and too expensive. > I had to write some (very strange) scripts to get a functionality > similar to a "normal" Linux box (eg. for log rotation) and it lacks many > standard tools (I do not want to have to cross-compile every little > utility myself). Yah. Understood. I love conserver. Our TS's, for the most part, are at remote sites that we just don't feel like setting up a whole extra box with a serial port or 3... The TS's are a good fit for those situations. > Conserver also seems much better regarding the core console > functionality and it seems easier to manage. Ever tried to find out to > which of your 5 console servers a particular host is attached? Yeah, all the time: console -i | grep $consoleName :) You know you can use conserver with your current TS's, right? -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From zhaibo@clusterfs.com Wed Aug 18 19:58:56 2004 Received: from moraine.clusterfs.com (moraine.clusterfs.com [66.246.132.190]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7J2ws8h027743 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clusterfs.com (unknown [61.149.82.236]) by moraine.clusterfs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACEA3100BF for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 22:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41241763.5080605@clusterfs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:58:43 +0800 From: zhou haibo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: conserver configure file for WTI CMS16 X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:58:57 -0000 Hi, Anybody have the experience of configure the conserver connected to a Console Management Switch 16(from WTI)? I had a CMS16, and want one linux box as the consoloe server. But I have not any idea to configure conserver. Thanks Zhou Haibo From Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at Thu Aug 19 03:22:42 2004 Received: from smtp.uibk.ac.at (lmr1.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.142]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7JAMbYt001247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [138.232.3.187] (red-c102.uibk.ac.at [138.232.3.187]) by smtp.uibk.ac.at (8.12.10/8.12.10/F1) with ESMTP id i7JAMavD001808 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:22:36 +0200 Message-ID: <41247F6B.2080603@uibk.ac.at> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:22:35 +0200 From: Michael Redinger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@conserver.com X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 at uibk.ac.at Subject: user restrictions don't work for console? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:22:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I do not seem to be able to change the rw and ro values on a per host basis. I suppose it is something trivial, but I just cannot see it ... The default * settings do work correctly (if I remove a user, it really cannot access the console any longer). But if I add an extra rw and ro for a console, this is ignored. I am still able to access the console when I am in the global (rw) user list but not in that of the console. See below for a short version of my setup. Thanks, Michael conserver.passwd (conserver compiled with --with-pam): *any*:*passwd* conserver.cf: group aaa { users u1, u2, u3; } group bbb { users *, !aaa; } default * { rw aaa; ro bbb; ... } console ca { port 1; include casssh; host termserv; ~ rw u4, u5, u6; ~ ro ""; } - -- Michael Redinger Zentraler Informatikdienst (Computer Centre) Universitaet Innsbruck Technikerstrasse 13 Tel.: ++43 512 507 2335 6020 Innsbruck Fax.: ++43 512 507 2944 Austria Mail: Michael.Redinger@uibk.ac.at BB98 D2FE 0F2C 2658 3780 3CB1 0FD7 A9D9 65C2 C11D http://www.uibk.ac.at/~c102mr/mred-pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBJH9rD9ep2WXCwR0RAkIcAJ9Koxj4c+EKBuf9PKHaSeejZfPLrQCgr6yo z7Hp+FJr4tXBE3A0cYTmBGU= =+ce4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bryan@stansell.org Thu Aug 19 09:43:33 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7JGhXmL026529 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7JGhXiT026528 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:43:33 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040819164333.GK25874@underdog.stansell.org> References: <41247F6B.2080603@uibk.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41247F6B.2080603@uibk.ac.at> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: user restrictions don't work for console? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:43:34 -0000 On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 12:22:35PM +0200, Michael Redinger wrote: > group aaa { > users u1, u2, u3; > } > group bbb { > users *, !aaa; > } > default * { > rw aaa; > ro bbb; > ... > } > console ca { > port 1; > include casssh; > host termserv; > ~ rw u4, u5, u6; > ~ ro ""; > } i had to change the above snipit to the following (since bits were chopped out): group aaa { users u1, u2, u3; } group bbb { users *, !aaa; } default casssh { type exec; master localhost; } default * { rw aaa; ro bbb; } console ca { port 1; include casssh; host termserv; rw u4, u5, u6; ro ""; } it worked for me with version 8.1.8. all users (u1-u6) were in the rw list and no one was in the ro list. so, if you're not using 8.1.8, it's probably a bug in the parser, and i suggest upgrading. if you are using 8.1.8, maybe something in the rest of the file is causing issues. Bryan From bryan@stansell.org Thu Aug 19 09:51:29 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7JGpTHd027067 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7JGpTEg027066 for users@conserver.com; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:51:29 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040819165129.GL25874@underdog.stansell.org> References: <6863f0c9040817122453ee67e0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6863f0c9040817122453ee67e0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: iLO refresh escape sequence X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:51:30 -0000 On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 02:24:21PM -0500, John Cagle wrote: > Is there any way to do this? not currently. you could set one of the break sequences to that set of characters so that folks wouldn't have to remember 'ESC [ ~', but that doesn't really help. but, you kinda get the same issue with other things as well...it's up to the user to do a '^Ecr' or invoke other things to repaint. it is an interesting edge-case, though...since you wouldn't want to just blindly send things to most consoles at "random" times and with this type of console, you could (in theory it's "harmless"). hmmm.... Bryan From phil@metallica.usc.edu Fri Aug 27 17:45:45 2004 Received: from metallica.usc.edu (metallica.usc.edu [128.125.10.57]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7S0jg7D014788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metallica.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7S0p3Aw011556; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:51:03 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7S0p3LY011555; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:51:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:51:03 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz To: Bill Sommerfeld Message-ID: <20040828005103.GQ8913@usc.edu> References: <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DCA/C9WSnDtl50zu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:45:45 -0000 --DCA/C9WSnDtl50zu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 05:23:16PM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > > I experience the same problem on lots of suns late hardware, early OS I= can=3D > > 't > > get a break through conserver. I'm told sending a break from directly > > connected works... but I've yet to see evidence of this -- though my > > co-workers like to blame conserver. =3D3D) >=20 > Can you be precise about hardware platforms and OS versions? =20 >=20 > I have access to internal test labs with a wide variety of hardware > and I therefore could waste a lot of time failing to reproduce > this.... :-) Okay, so I got the specifics for ya. You can't send a serial break when usi= ng the "ssh" portion of cyclades - and I can't find a way around that. Basical= ly, at an ok prompt, if I sent a \z break when the cyclades are using the telnet server, I get: SC Alert: SC Request to send Break to host. However, when using the SSH server I get: [halt sent] [attached] I've tried ~\z and that doesn't work... anyone know how to do that? --=20 Phil Dibowitz Systems Architect and Administrator Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC UCC 174 - 213-821-5427 --DCA/C9WSnDtl50zu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBL9b37lkZ1Iyv898RAt3uAJ9Rl0/SAp2GdtGFef6q1RaRtcVQxwCgyMY/ jDF5pCnuDKVo/mK2FkYJl1w= =otzX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DCA/C9WSnDtl50zu-- From bryan@stansell.org Mon Aug 30 08:12:10 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7UFCASv006146 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7UFCAWZ006145 for users@conserver.com; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:12:10 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040830151210.GW25874@underdog.stansell.org> References: <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> <20040828005103.GQ8913@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040828005103.GQ8913@usc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:12:11 -0000 On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:51:03PM -0700, Phil Dibowitz wrote: > However, when using the SSH server I get: > > [halt sent] > > [attached] > > > I've tried ~\z and that doesn't work... anyone know how to do that? doing a google search, i found: Note: the sequence ~Ctrl-g is what is currently used in the cyclades box configuration (the all.break_sequence parameter in the /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file). for a certain configuration of cyclades term servers out there, at least. so, i'd suggest checking the /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file and looking at the break_sequence options...could be '~B' as well...i found a reference to that also...or perhaps neither of those are the default. Bryan From phil@metallica.usc.edu Mon Aug 30 16:24:19 2004 Received: from metallica.usc.edu (metallica.usc.edu [128.125.10.57]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7UNOG2r008656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metallica.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7UNTie7029804; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:29:44 -0700 Received: (from phil@localhost) by metallica.usc.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i7UNThU2029803; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:29:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:29:43 -0700 From: Phil Dibowitz To: Bryan Stansell Message-ID: <20040830232943.GD8913@usc.edu> References: <20040726211223.GI19709@usc.edu> <200407262123.i6QLNGWv004533@thunk.east.sun.com> <20040828005103.GQ8913@usc.edu> <20040830151210.GW25874@underdog.stansell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m/dOQwinUYovVn10" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040830151210.GW25874@underdog.stansell.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:24:20 -0000 --m/dOQwinUYovVn10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 08:12:10AM -0700, Bryan Stansell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:51:03PM -0700, Phil Dibowitz wrote: > > However, when using the SSH server I get: > >=20 > > [halt sent] > >=20 > > [attached] > >=20 > >=20 > > I've tried ~\z and that doesn't work... anyone know how to do that? >=20 > doing a google search, i found: >=20 > Note: the sequence ~Ctrl-g is what is currently used in the cyclades > box configuration (the all.break_sequence parameter in the > /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file). >=20 > for a certain configuration of cyclades term servers out there, at > least. so, i'd suggest checking the /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file and > looking at the break_sequence options...could be '~B' as well...i found > a reference to that also...or perhaps neither of those are the default. Doh! Simple rtfm issues. Thanks Bryan, you rock. Turns out it was ~break on our cyclades which works great. Thanks. --=20 Phil Dibowitz Systems Architect and Administrator Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC UCC 174 - 213-821-5427 --m/dOQwinUYovVn10 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBM7hn7lkZ1Iyv898RAkrUAJ96fMcUGiaLqhKFnfLUOdwhmP6tOQCfXxgQ vTrtYGQ5cKEecA/qgTJxsOU= =NJuV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m/dOQwinUYovVn10-- From corrigan@KiNETWORKS.com Mon Aug 30 19:41:18 2004 Received: from KiNETWORKS.com (mail.kinetworks.com [68.17.34.194]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7V2fD3m021642; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOGOS (LOG-OS.rtp.KiNETWORKS.com [172.16.16.181]) by KiNETWORKS.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i7V2f9F19021; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:41:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200408310241.i7V2f9F19021@KiNETWORKS.com> From: "Jim Corrigan" To: "'Phil Dibowitz'" , "'Bryan Stansell'" Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:45:10 -0400 Organization: Ki NETWORKS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20040830232943.GD8913@usc.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcSO6SRBwHm6qxZ/SYuc4zZkT5TtawAEvzlw X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: corrigan@KiNETWORKS.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 02:41:21 -0000 You can also set the break sequence for each port and leave the all.break_sequence ~break by: modifying /etc/portslave/pslave.conf to add a sequence for each port via a line, such as: s9.break_sequence ~HARDW What we ultimately did because we have a multi-vendor environment and wanted to greatly simplify terminal server and hosts with serial interface cards: we wrote a linux daemon, windows service and UNIX daemon ( AIX, HPUX, Solaris and TRU64 ) called emser. We wanted to eliminate having to know all the different nuances of each terminal server and or host based serial interface card; we created a binary called emser that resides on the cyclades, logical solutions, lantronix, WINDOWS and UNIX hosts with serial interface cards; emser functions include: 1. a server makes a single connection to emser on the terminal server, windows PC, host w/ serial cards and the console manager can connect to any of the /dev/tty* over this single SSL network connection; no more individual sshd connections to each /dev/'tty*; one console manager would have a single network connection to emser rather that 48 connections to each of the terminal servers 48 ports if the server was a 48 port terminal server; one customer maintains a single connection to a host that has 4 x 128 connections. 2. emser maintains the connections to each port device while handling the one connection from the network by the server; you don't have to worry about what is in the pslave.conf or lci.conf; and the buffering is disabled such as cyclades /bin/cy_buffering as all traffic is sent back to host acting as console manager; 3. if one server is acting as a console manager it makes a single connection to each emser enabled terminal server, Windows system or host with serial cards; If you are using a ts3000 cyclades you would requires48 connections when using sshd; if you are using older lantronix such as SCS4805 you are using 96 connections: 48 for sshd and 48 for direct, the newer SLC servers supposedly only use 48 sshd; the savings in connections is significant though one for emser versus 48 or over for sshd based tservers. 4. emser returns the UART signals' status; this status let's you know the state of each signal; if someone pulled the cable or the system connected has had its power turned off you will usually see certain signals go low; 5. emser returns the list of systems that are connected to each port; 6. you can also control what port is available to what servers if you wish to restrict access as well 7. connections from console manager servers are lighting fast; you don't have to put in delays when connecting to a 48 port terminal server via sshd connections; Best Yet: All cyclades, lantronix and logical solution terminal servers use the same emser interface; you are made vendor independent and don't need their configuration programs or do you have to have two steps to create a console management port: you don't have to configure the port on the server and then configure the console manager to connect to a specific terminal server port; and you are no longer constrained to have one server per one port; More than one console manager can make a connection to the same port on the same terminal server, because the emser maintains the client connections coming from the network via a single SSL network connection and the /dev/port connections on terminal server device/port side; NO MORE port conflicts; this feature makes it very easy to set up redundant access since all ports can be shared by multiple console manager systems. Once emser is deployed once, it requests updates from the console manager server: no fuss, no muss Jim | -----Original Message----- | From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] On | Behalf Of Phil Dibowitz | Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:30 PM | To: Bryan Stansell | Cc: users@conserver.com | Subject: Re: break sequence during Sun host boot up stage | | On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 08:12:10AM -0700, Bryan Stansell wrote: | > On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 05:51:03PM -0700, Phil Dibowitz wrote: | > > However, when using the SSH server I get: | > > | > > [halt sent] | > > | > > [attached] | > > | > > | > > I've tried ~\z and that doesn't work... anyone know how to do that? | > | > doing a google search, i found: | > | > Note: the sequence ~Ctrl-g is what is currently used in the cyclades | > box configuration (the all.break_sequence parameter in the | > /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file). | > | > for a certain configuration of cyclades term servers out there, at | > least. so, i'd suggest checking the /etc/portslave/pslave.conf file and | > looking at the break_sequence options...could be '~B' as well...i found | > a reference to that also...or perhaps neither of those are the default. | | Doh! Simple rtfm issues. | | Thanks Bryan, you rock. Turns out it was ~break on our cyclades which works | great. Thanks. | | -- | Phil Dibowitz | Systems Architect and Administrator | Enterprise Infrastructure / ISD / USC | UCC 174 - 213-821-5427