From lepera@us.ibm.com Fri Apr 2 09:38:10 2004 Received: from e1.ny.us.ibm.com (e1.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.101]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i32Hc7WT005655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (northrelay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.206]) by e1.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/NS PXFA) with ESMTP id i32Hc3e8427542 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:38:03 -0500 Received: from d01ml251.pok.ibm.com (d01av04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.64]) by northrelay04.pok.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VER6.6) with ESMTP id i32HcNsW091420 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:38:23 -0500 To: users@conserver.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.11 July 24, 2002 Message-ID: From: William P LePera Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:37:57 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML251/01/M/IBM(Release 6.51HF109 | March 23, 2004) at 04/02/2004 12:38:02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: conserver log entry X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:38:12 -0000 Using conserver on AIX, v 7.2.4, one of our people noticed a huge conserver log file in /var/log. Most of the entries are: conserver (18370): select: Bad file number She is not having a problem opening or using any of the consoles, but is concerned about the message. Is there a condition here I should be worried about? Thanks, Bill ___________________________________________________________________ Bill LePera IBM Server Group Poughkeepsie, NY From bryan@stansell.org Fri Apr 2 10:19:17 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i32IJGdF007187 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i32IJGJ0007186 for users@conserver.com; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:19:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:19:16 -0800 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040402181916.GQ12935@underdog.stansell.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: conserver log entry X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:19:19 -0000 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:37:57PM -0500, William P LePera wrote: > Using conserver on AIX, v 7.2.4, one of our people noticed a huge > conserver log file in /var/log. Most of the entries are: > > conserver (18370): select: Bad file number > > She is not having a problem opening or using any of the consoles, but is > concerned about the message. Is there a condition here I should be worried > about? well, aside from a huge logfile, i suppose not. it *is* a sign of a bug, however. conserver must not be properly removing a file descriptor from it's list of open files (it might not have dropped a bad console structure or client structure or something else, even). it's hard to say for sure. restarting conserver should "fix" it...in that it'll all start over and hopefully the bit of code that triggered the problem won't occur again (very soon, anyway). but the real key is to try and get to 7.2.7 (if possible). i can't promise that the code that's at fault has been fixed in 7.2.7, but the chances are pretty good. i haven't heard of any major issues with 7.2.7...unless most folks have made the jump to 8.x.x and there's a lack of use of 7.2.7. Bryan From gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com Fri Apr 2 10:34:58 2004 Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f18.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.18]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i32IYvF3007769 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:34:56 -0800 Received: from 20.137.146.50 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:34:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [20.137.146.50] X-Originating-Email: [gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com From: "Greg Brown" To: users@conserver.com Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:34:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2004 18:34:56.0794 (UTC) FILETIME=[328BAFA0:01C418E1] X-Spam-Score: -4.273 () BAYES_00,FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: conserver log entry X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:35:00 -0000 William, I have been very happy with 7.2.7 running on an HP/UX 10.20 box. I checked, and there are no problems with log files in /var/log. I am monitoring just short of 100 consoles via Xyplex terminal servers (with a power supply "break" fix). The sysadmins think I am some kind of genius, but I tell them it is just a great piece of software and point to Bryan's website. 7.2.7 is a very stable product. Thanks to Bryan. Greg Brown CSC, San Diego Data Center >From: Bryan Stansell >To: users@conserver.com >Subject: Re: conserver log entry >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 10:19:16 -0800 > >On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 12:37:57PM -0500, William P LePera wrote: > > Using conserver on AIX, v 7.2.4, one of our people noticed a huge > > conserver log file in /var/log. Most of the entries are: > > > > conserver (18370): select: Bad file number > > > > She is not having a problem opening or using any of the consoles, but is > > concerned about the message. Is there a condition here I should be >worried > > about? > >well, aside from a huge logfile, i suppose not. it *is* a sign of a >bug, however. conserver must not be properly removing a file descriptor >from it's list of open files (it might not have dropped a bad console >structure or client structure or something else, even). it's hard to >say for sure. > >restarting conserver should "fix" it...in that it'll all start over and >hopefully the bit of code that triggered the problem won't occur again >(very soon, anyway). > >but the real key is to try and get to 7.2.7 (if possible). i can't >promise that the code that's at fault has been fixed in 7.2.7, but the >chances are pretty good. i haven't heard of any major issues with >7.2.7...unless most folks have made the jump to 8.x.x and there's a lack >of use of >7.2.7. > >Bryan >_______________________________________________ >users mailing list >users@conserver.com >https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ From nhruby@uga.edu Tue Apr 6 14:39:49 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i36LdjaJ024208 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i36LdiSq009277 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:39:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i36LdiAT009273 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:39:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: 8.1.x -b option fails to bind to port with more than 15 ports? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 21:39:51 -0000 Hi, I recently added some more consoles to my .cf file. This pushed the number of consoles up so that conserver now needs to make two "groups" (eg: processes that control the consoles). I am also using the -b option so that conserver starts using ports at a predefined place so I can punch holes though various firewalls as needed. When I restarted after adding the extra hosts, conserver never finished starting. instead is now gives me the following: ERROR: Spawn(): bind(1301): Address already in use If I remove the -bNNNN option from the command line and restart, it works quite happily. If I remove the consoles I just added and restart *with* the -b option, it also works happily. I though this might be a problem with conserver-8.1.1, so I rebuilt with 8.1.3 (and after changing my device and devicesubst lines :) it still happens. So, uhh.. is this a buglet? If so is there a workaround or am I just doing something dumb? Platform is i386 / Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 WS. Machine is a Compaq DL350 using Cyclades Ze 32 port serial expanders. Please help! I'm *supposed* to be on vacation starting tomorrow morning and I'd really like to be! Here's the log from startup (I;ve substituted "1" for all my console names for obvious reasons :): ----SNIP [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11070): conserver.com version 8.1.3 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11070): started as `root' by `root' [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC24 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC23 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC22 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC21 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC20 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC19 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC18 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC17 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC16 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC15 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC14 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC13 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC12 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:26 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC11 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:27 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at 9600n on /dev/ttyC10 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:27 2004] conserver (11070): INFO: group #0 pid 11071 on port 1301 [Tue Apr 6 17:24:27 2004] conserver (11070): ERROR: Spawn(): bind(1301):Address already in use [Tue Apr 6 17:24:27 2004] conserver (11071): INFO: [1] at9600n on /dev/ttyC0 ----END Thanks! -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From bryan@stansell.org Tue Apr 6 16:46:03 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i36Nk2PY028646 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i36Nk2SR028645 for users@conserver.com; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:46:02 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040406234602.GC12935@underdog.stansell.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Re: 8.1.x -b option fails to bind to port with more than 15 ports? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:46:05 -0000 On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:39:44PM -0400, nathan r. hruby wrote: > So, uhh.. is this a buglet? If so is there a workaround or am I just > doing something dumb? thanks for providing all the info, and, yep, you've got yourself a buglet. congrats! ;-) luckily, it's an easy fix. and sorry it was hangin' around all this time...guess not many folks use -b in the 8.x.x world (with a bunch of consoles). for conserver-8.1.3 go to line 4512 of conserver/group.c: 4510 (errno == EADDRINUSE) || 4511 #endif 4512 (errno == EACCES)) && portInc++) { 4513 lstn_port.sin_port = htons(bindBasePort + portInc); 4514 } else { and change that "portInc++" to a "++portInc". the same can be applied to conserver-8.1.1 on line 4406 (but if you've got 8.1.3 going, i'd certainly stick with it). hmmm...the 7.2.7 code appears to be the same. i haven't tried it, but it probably doesn't work either (doesn't look like it should). anyone out there trying to use that can apply the same fix to line 3316. > Please help! I'm *supposed* to be on vacation starting tomorrow > morning and I'd really like to be! hopefully this makes everything well and you can have a great vacation. Bryan From nhruby@uga.edu Tue Apr 6 17:05:20 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3705EPo029336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3705ESq009933; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:05:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i3705EAG009929; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:05:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:05:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Bryan Stansell In-Reply-To: <20040406234602.GC12935@underdog.stansell.org> Message-ID: References: <20040406234602.GC12935@underdog.stansell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: 8.1.x -b option fails to bind to port with more than 15 ports? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:05:22 -0000 Thanks trying it now :) Will report back... -n On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Bryan Stansell wrote: > On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:39:44PM -0400, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > So, uhh.. is this a buglet? If so is there a workaround or am I just > > doing something dumb? > > thanks for providing all the info, and, yep, you've got yourself a > buglet. congrats! ;-) > > luckily, it's an easy fix. and sorry it was hangin' around all this > time...guess not many folks use -b in the 8.x.x world (with a bunch of > consoles). > > for conserver-8.1.3 go to line 4512 of conserver/group.c: > > 4510 (errno == EADDRINUSE) || > 4511 #endif > 4512 (errno == EACCES)) && portInc++) { > 4513 lstn_port.sin_port = htons(bindBasePort + portInc); > 4514 } else { > > and change that "portInc++" to a "++portInc". the same can be applied > to conserver-8.1.1 on line 4406 (but if you've got 8.1.3 going, i'd > certainly stick with it). > > hmmm...the 7.2.7 code appears to be the same. i haven't tried it, but > it probably doesn't work either (doesn't look like it should). anyone > out there trying to use that can apply the same fix to line 3316. > > > Please help! I'm *supposed* to be on vacation starting tomorrow > > morning and I'd really like to be! > > hopefully this makes everything well and you can have a great vacation. > > Bryan > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From nhruby@uga.edu Tue Apr 6 17:28:06 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i370S2wG000128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i370S1Sq010055; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:28:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i370S1mh010051; Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:28:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Bryan Stansell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20040406234602.GC12935@underdog.stansell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: 8.1.x -b option fails to bind to port with more than 15 ports? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 00:28:08 -0000 On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > Thanks trying it now :) > > Will report back... > Works awesomely! Thanks much! If You're in New Orleans this weekend or in the Atlanta metro area ever, I owe you dinner! Thanks so much! For those building RPM's here's a patch that you can drop in easily: ----BEGIN --- conserver/group-pre_base_fix.c 2004-04-06 20:00:15.000000000-0400 +++ conserver/group.c 2004-04-06 20:00:34.000000000 -0400 @@ -4509,7 +4509,7 @@ #if defined(EADDRINUSE) (errno == EADDRINUSE) || #endif - (errno == EACCES)) && portInc++) { + (errno == EACCES)) && ++portInc) { lstn_port.sin_port = htons(bindBasePort + portInc); } else { Error("Spawn(): bind(%hu): %s", ntohs(lstn_port.sin_port), ----END I also have a few other odd things and some rpm specfile patches to submit back up, they just need some cleaning. I'll try to get those posted next week :) > -n > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Bryan Stansell wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:39:44PM -0400, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > > So, uhh.. is this a buglet? If so is there a workaround or am I just > > > doing something dumb? > > > > thanks for providing all the info, and, yep, you've got yourself a > > buglet. congrats! ;-) > > > > luckily, it's an easy fix. and sorry it was hangin' around all this > > time...guess not many folks use -b in the 8.x.x world (with a bunch of > > consoles). > > > > for conserver-8.1.3 go to line 4512 of conserver/group.c: > > > > 4510 (errno == EADDRINUSE) || > > 4511 #endif > > 4512 (errno == EACCES)) && portInc++) { > > 4513 lstn_port.sin_port = htons(bindBasePort + portInc); > > 4514 } else { > > > > and change that "portInc++" to a "++portInc". the same can be applied > > to conserver-8.1.1 on line 4406 (but if you've got 8.1.3 going, i'd > > certainly stick with it). > > > > hmmm...the 7.2.7 code appears to be the same. i haven't tried it, but > > it probably doesn't work either (doesn't look like it should). anyone > > out there trying to use that can apply the same fix to line 3316. > > > > > Please help! I'm *supposed* to be on vacation starting tomorrow > > > morning and I'd really like to be! > > > > hopefully this makes everything well and you can have a great vacation. > > > > Bryan > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > users@conserver.com > > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From William.Bianco@sungard.com Wed Apr 7 12:02:58 2004 Received: from Corp-SMTP2.sungard.com (corp-mail01.sungard.com [216.83.180.43]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i37J2vsH014311 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:02:57 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Bianco@sungard.com To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:02:55 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Corp-SMTP2/SunGard(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 04/07/2004 02:49:59 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.562 () BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: William Bianco/Philadelphia/Recovery is out of the office. X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:03:00 -0000 I will be out of the office starting 04/03/2004 and will not return until 04/12/2004. If you require any immediate action please contact Bob Kurz. at 215-351-3208. From bryan@stansell.org Tue Apr 13 13:56:23 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3DKuNZ7003572; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3DKuMTj003571; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:56:22 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: announce@conserver.com, users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040413205622.GT12935@underdog.stansell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: conserver-8.1.4 is available X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:56:25 -0000 Somehow, somewhere, I broke a few of the client options. Sorry about that. This release fixes them and adds a new configure option --with-uds. This causes conserver to use Unix domain sockets instead of IP sockets for client/server communication. You can find more details on this in the INSTALL file and conserver manpage. version 8.1.4 (Apr 13, 2004): - fixed macro use in manpages to hopefully be more compatible - removed extra newline of --MARK-- range output - fixed bug where server -b option wasn't working - reported by Nathan R. Hruby - fixed client segfault when using -R, -t, -d, and -b options - added a --with-uds configure option to have all client/server communication happen via unix domain sockets - suggested by William P LePera Bryan Stansell From RLAdams@Kelsey-Seybold.com Tue Apr 13 14:53:08 2004 Received: from KS119IS01SMTP2.ksnet.com (ks119is01smtp2.ksnet.com [162.121.247.12]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3DLr5b5005587 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soja.ksnet.com ([129.100.4.19]) by KS119IS01SMTP2 with InterS can Messaging Security Suite; Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:53:04 -0500 Received: by soja.ksnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16: 49:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:49:49 -0500 From: Russell Adams To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040413214949.GH8551@soja.ksnet.com.> Mail-Followup-To: users@conserver.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-imss-version: 2.0 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:11.36030 C:20 M:1 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Using Conserver with User Mode Linux X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:53:10 -0000 I've posted a document on the Houston Linux User's Group TWiki describing a method for using Conserver as a software KVM for multiple User Mode Linux images running on a master host. I thought I'd post it in case it were of interest to anyone. http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/twiki/bin/view.cgi/HLUG/UsingConserverWithUserModeLinux Russell From nhruby@uga.edu Wed Apr 14 07:31:45 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3EEVej8016117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3EEVdSq029194; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:31:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i3EEVdqN029190; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:31:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:31:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: hal@uga.edu Subject: conserver freezes when console presents binary data? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:31:47 -0000 Hi! We seem to be having this problem concerning binary data shoved out a console and though conserver making conserver freeze. When this happens taking a kernel stack trace, conserver looks like this: Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: conserver S 00000001 0 24243 1 24244 2371 (NOTLB) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: Call Trace: [] __alloc_pages [kernel] 0x97 (0xf2b11e8c) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] schedule [kernel] 0x2f4 (0xf2b11ea0) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] schedule_timeout [kernel] 0xbc (0xf2b11ee4) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] tcp_poll [kernel] 0x36 (0xf2b11ee8) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sock_poll [kernel] 0x2c (0xf2b11f08) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] do_select [kernel] 0x13b (0xf2b11f1c) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sys_select [kernel] 0x34e (0xf2b11f60) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: conserver S 00000000 1484 24244 24243 24247 (NOTLB) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: Call Trace: [] schedule [kernel] 0x2f4 (0xe0f97e44) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] tty_wait_until_sent [kernel] 0xc2 (0xe0f97e5c) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_port [cyclades] 0x1214 (0xe0f97e78) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] interruptible_sleep_on [kernel] 0x52 (0xe0f97e88) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_port [cyclades] 0x1218 (0xe0f97e94) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_port [cyclades] 0x1218 (0xe0f97e98) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_port [cyclades] 0x1090 (0xe0f97eb0) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_close [cyclades] 0x4f9 (0xe0f97eb8) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] cy_card [cyclades] 0x0 (0xe0f97ebc) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] release_dev [kernel] 0x61a (0xe0f97ee8) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sock_recvmsg [kernel] 0x58 (0xe0f97f08) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sock_read [kernel] 0x96 (0xe0f97f50) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] tty_release [kernel] 0x32 (0xe0f97f6c) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] __fput [kernel] 0xea (0xe0f97f78) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] filp_close [kernel] 0x8e (0xe0f97f94) Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sys_close [kernel] 0x66 (0xe0f97fb0) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: conserver S 00000001 0 24247 24243 24248 24244 (NOTLB) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: Call Trace: [] __alloc_pages [kernel] 0x97 (0xf4349e8c) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: [] schedule [kernel] 0x2f4 (0xf4349ea0) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: [] schedule_timeout [kernel] 0x65 (0xf4349ee4) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: [] process_timeout [kernel] 0x0 (0xf4349f04) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: [] do_select [kernel] 0x13b (0xf4349f1c) Apr 14 10:03:15 xoff kernel: [] sys_select [kernel] 0x34e (0xf4349f60) So, the conserver process seems "frozen" in that any console commands seem to hang. I assume that's cause it's locked waiting for tty operations. So my question is: is this expected or possible buglet fodder? I'm thinking that just telling conserver to strip the 7th bit shoudl hopefully make this go away, but any guidance folks could share would be much appreciated. This is conserver 8.1.3 on Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation 3 Update 1. Hardware is a Compaq DL350 Tower with 1 HT'ed CPU and 1GB RAM -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From bryan@stansell.org Wed Apr 14 16:14:23 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3ENEN6d004287; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3ENEMIZ004286; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:14:22 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040414231422.GY12935@underdog.stansell.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: hal@uga.edu Subject: Re: conserver freezes when console presents binary data? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:14:25 -0000 On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 10:31:39AM -0400, nathan r. hruby wrote: > Hi! > > We seem to be having this problem concerning binary data shoved out a > console and though conserver making conserver freeze. well, that's really not supposed to happen. i've even done some (minimal) testing doing xmodem transfers to and from consoles (local shell commands) using the '^Ec|' sequence. found a few binary-data bugs and fixed them (a few releases ago). i was able to xfer multiple megs of data without a hiccup. it was definitely shoving 8-bit data without problems. perhaps i should try that test again... > Apr 14 10:03:14 xoff kernel: [] sys_close [kernel] 0x66 (0xe0f97fb0) assuming i'm reading this right, one of the child processes was locked up trying to close the serial port (i assume it was a serial port since higher up it was doing cyclades stuff). all the files are opened non-blocking (O_NDELAY for the serial ports, but under linux O_NONBLOCK==O_NDELAY - i'm going to change all the O_NDELAY to O_NONBLOCK, btw), so it concerns me that a close would block. at least, i'm assuming it was blocked on the close. my big question is, why was it trying to close the connection to the serial port? where there any conserver messages logged that might explain it? or errors? or anything? > So, the conserver process seems "frozen" in that any console commands > seem to hang. I assume that's cause it's locked waiting for tty > operations. yeah, if you try and connect to any console managed by that process, it'll lock up. if you poll the servers it can lock too (stuff like 'console -u', 'console -w', etc) since the children provide the info. > So my question is: is this expected or possible buglet fodder? I'm > thinking that just telling conserver to strip the 7th bit shoudl hopefully > make this go away, but any guidance folks could share would be much > appreciated. i doubt the high-bit stripping will help. if it does, i'd love to know. can you make this happen at will? if so, i'd suggest copying the conserver.cf file, commenting out all but one console, and then tell conserver to ignore the console by connecting to it and doing a '^Ecd'. then start up another conserver process with 'conserver -C new.cf -DDD -p 7777 > /tmp/conserver.log 2>&1'. connect to the console with 'console -p 7777 (consolename)' and cause it to lock up. then just nuke the conserver processes that are using '-p 7777'. oh, and connect to the console with the real server and do a '^Eco' to bring it back up. the /tmp/conserver.log file will be HUGE. and i mean **HUGE**. but, it'll show every bit of detail, and hopefully will shed some light on what's going on (unless you've figured out what it is by now). and, of course, there was the off-mailing list suggestion that perhaps it's a software flow-control issue. dunno if you've checked into that yet, but maybe there's some way of that influencing the close(). but again, why is it trying to close the device? as a final "aside", i've talked to another person about issues with the cyclades Y cards and problems with conserver. afaik, he's still having problems - weird things where some ports work, others don't. maybe these are tied together somehow. we never got anywhere with his problems. it makes me think there's some low-level serial stuff that the cyclades drivers have issues with...or something. ok...i'm done with my long rambling. maybe, hopefully, something in here will be of help. if you can trigger the problem, i'd love to see the conserver log (with the -DDD). Bryan From nhruby@uga.edu Wed Apr 14 20:59:12 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3F3x8sk014099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3F3x8Sq002111; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:59:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i3F3x8gp002107; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:59:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Bryan Stansell In-Reply-To: <20040414231422.GY12935@underdog.stansell.org> Message-ID: References: <20040414231422.GY12935@underdog.stansell.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com, hal@uga.edu Subject: Re: conserver freezes when console presents binary data? X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 03:59:15 -0000 On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, Bryan Stansell wrote: > my big question is, why was it trying to close the connection to the > serial port? where there any conserver messages logged that might > explain it? or errors? or anything? > Nope, granted I'm not running conserver with -D :) > i doubt the high-bit stripping will help. if it does, i'd love to know. > I can try that. > can you make this happen at will? It's happened several times, but never to me. I'm going to try to generate a reporducable test case this week to work with. > if so, i'd suggest copying the [snip debug procudure] I'll give that a shot once I have a test case. > and, of course, there was the off-mailing list suggestion that perhaps > it's a software flow-control issue. dunno if you've checked into that > yet, but maybe there's some way of that influencing the close(). but > again, why is it trying to close the device? > I'll look into it. > as a final "aside", i've talked to another person about issues with the > cyclades Y cards and problems with conserver. afaik, he's still having > problems - weird things where some ports work, others don't. maybe > these are tied together somehow. we never got anywhere with his > problems. it makes me think there's some low-level serial stuff that > the cyclades drivers have issues with...or something. > This is teh cyclades Z board, but the drivers are funky, > ok...i'm done with my long rambling. maybe, hopefully, something in > here will be of help. if you can trigger the problem, i'd love to see > the conserver log (with the -DDD). Thanks! I'll give that all a shot and report back! -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com Thu Apr 15 13:54:05 2004 Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f26.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.26]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3FKs4Jd000588 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:54:01 -0700 Received: from 20.137.146.50 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:54:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [20.137.146.50] X-Originating-Email: [gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com From: "Greg Brown" To: users@conserver.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:54:01 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2004 20:54:01.0440 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7B65E00:01C4232B] X-Spam-Score: 0.028 () BAYES_01,FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: External console control for terminals X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:54:07 -0000 To all Conserveraffectionados, I am considering building an external piece of hardware that will permit the console manager to control whether a terminal close to the host, as well as the host, is also connected and able to display, and/or able to transmit keyboard information to the host. This device would be a simple "Y" connection on the host's transmit data leads, allowing the local terminal and the remote conserver to see every character from the host. However, transmit data from the local terminal, or from the conserver, could be remotely interrupted. It may be necessary to use a device like this for several reasons: Some hosts I deal with, like HP3000s, have a "block mode" which causes the terminals to "answer back" with cursor positions, etc. If a remote terminal is connected, via conserver, and a local terminal near the host is also connected, and the host enquires information from the terminal, it will get 2 responses if both are able to respond. Sometimes it is necessary to grab the console from the local terminal so that the remote console operator is assured he or she is in complete control of the session during critical installations. And the opposite may be necessary for the same reason. I have made other devices on this scale and can do my own printed circuitboard design. My question to the group is: Does anyone know of a device that does this and which is already available? I am exploring a software feature of the MRV In Reach terminal server that is supposed to have this functionality, but I have not yet tested it. If something already exists out there, I would prefer to use it, rather than "re-invent the wheel." I know that ASP makes a Cat Walk box that comes with each host licensed for their Vantage program, but I don't think they sell this separately. Conserver is a great product. The additional capability of this device would make it possible to add another class of machines to those that I can currently manage. Thanks for any help you can lend me, Greg Brown Midrange Communications Specialist CSC San Diego Data Center _________________________________________________________________ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlb&pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ From kurt@linux.raschke.net Sat Apr 24 10:23:17 2004 Received: from mail.raschke.net (dsl093-055-229.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.55.229]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i3OHNFja004081 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (extwww [127.0.0.1]) by mail.raschke.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A60E819D for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.raschke.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (extwww.raschke.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27622-08 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.raschke.net (linux.raschke.net [192.168.0.3]) by mail.raschke.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F1E8048 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by linux.raschke.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 42798580BF; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:23:12 -0400 From: Kurt Raschke To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at raschke.net X-Spam-Score: -0.6 () BAYES_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Conserver remote access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: kurt@raschke.net List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:23:18 -0000 I have been running conserver on my LAN for a few months now, and so far it has been very successful. However, I'd like to open up access to the box running conserver for purposes of remote administration over the Internet. Obviously, I am worried about the potential security implications of this, and so I am looking to do it in the safest way possible. What would you all reccomend? I am thinking of either opening up SSH to the box, or opening up the conserver port and then using 'console' to connect remotely, since conserver does include SSL support to secure the connection. -Kurt Raschke From cfowler@outpostsentinel.com Sat Apr 24 10:37:57 2004 Received: from linux.local (66-23-198-2.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.198.2]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3OHbsnD004587 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A525A140C4; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Fowler To: kurt@raschke.net In-Reply-To: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> References: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1082828384.18639.78.camel@linux.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:39:44 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver remote access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:37:58 -0000 SSL would probably be the best since conserver uses certificates to authenticate. SSH would be good too. I would pick a unusual username and very cryptic password. On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 13:23, Kurt Raschke wrote: > I have been running conserver on my LAN for a few months now, and so > far it has been very successful. However, I'd like to open up access > to the box running conserver for purposes of remote administration > over the Internet. Obviously, I am worried about the potential > security implications of this, and so I am looking to do it in the > safest way possible. What would you all reccomend? I am thinking of > either opening up SSH to the box, or opening up the conserver port and > then using 'console' to connect remotely, since conserver does include > SSL support to secure the connection. > > -Kurt Raschke > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From cfowler@outpostsentinel.com Sat Apr 24 10:44:52 2004 Received: from linux.local (66-23-198-2.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.198.2]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3OHim1G004870 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linux.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8B1A140C4; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Fowler To: kurt@raschke.net In-Reply-To: <1082828384.18639.78.camel@linux.local> References: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> <1082828384.18639.78.camel@linux.local> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1082828801.18639.84.camel@linux.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:46:41 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver remote access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:44:52 -0000 I'll add one more idea to this thread. If you want to remotely manager the server that is running conserver then enable it for serial console and wrap a null modem cable into its port. Or you could use one of the command executiona like "telnet 127.0.0.1" Just remember to use iptables to block the telnet port from the outside. This way you can use pure SSL in conserver and sill be able to access the console server. On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 13:39, Christopher Fowler wrote: > SSL would probably be the best since conserver uses certificates to > authenticate. > > SSH would be good too. I would pick a unusual username and very cryptic > password. > > > On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 13:23, Kurt Raschke wrote: > > I have been running conserver on my LAN for a few months now, and so > > far it has been very successful. However, I'd like to open up access > > to the box running conserver for purposes of remote administration > > over the Internet. Obviously, I am worried about the potential > > security implications of this, and so I am looking to do it in the > > safest way possible. What would you all reccomend? I am thinking of > > either opening up SSH to the box, or opening up the conserver port and > > then using 'console' to connect remotely, since conserver does include > > SSL support to secure the connection. > > > > -Kurt Raschke > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > users@conserver.com > > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From William.Bianco@sungard.com Sat Apr 24 12:02:36 2004 Received: from Corp-SMTP2.sungard.com (corp-mail01.sungard.com [216.83.180.43]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3OJ2ZbL007564 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Bianco@sungard.com To: users@conserver.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 15:02:31 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Corp-SMTP2/SunGard(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 04/24/2004 02:48:45 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.562 () BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: William Bianco/Philadelphia/Recovery is out of the office. X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:02:36 -0000 I will be out of the office starting 04/23/2004 and will not return until 05/03/2004. If you require any immediate action please contact Bob Kurz. at 215-351-3208. From nhruby@uga.edu Sat Apr 24 13:08:53 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3OK8njM009806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3OK8kJP007575; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:08:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i3OK8kxx007571; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:08:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:08:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Kurt Raschke In-Reply-To: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> Message-ID: References: <20040424172311.GA30458@raschke.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Conserver remote access X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:08:53 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 24 Apr 2004, Kurt Raschke wrote: > I have been running conserver on my LAN for a few months now, and so > far it has been very successful. However, I'd like to open up access > to the box running conserver for purposes of remote administration > over the Internet. Obviously, I am worried about the potential > security implications of this, and so I am looking to do it in the > safest way possible. What would you all reccomend? I am thinking of > either opening up SSH to the box, or opening up the conserver port and > then using 'console' to connect remotely, since conserver does include > SSL support to secure the connection. > What we've been doing is a mixture of various things. When building conserver we use "--with-libwrap --with-openssl --with-pam" We also force the default action in conserver to be deny, not accept non-ssl connections and have ALL : ALL in hosts.deny. We then open up the conserver port in the firewall for only a select number of subnets, and then either add individual machines from subnets to /etc/hosts.allow and conserver.cf or for subnets we trust, the entire subnet. We do not have any trusted client hosts in our config, so everyone must enter a password when connecting. Some users have the console application installed on their box, others ssh into the servers themselves and console from there, or login directly and use the screen/keyboard when at the physical box and then simply open an xterm and use console from there. Seems complicated (and it can be adding a user or a new host on a new subnet requires editing 3-4 config files and several restarts of services) but I think it's probably the most useful while trying to remain the most secure. If anyone thinks this is a retarded way of doing things, please LMK. It seems like a good idea, but I am still fairly new to conserver :) -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free ------------------------------------------- From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 11:38:22 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TIcLES021782 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TIcIkF021423 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TIcH1L014950 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.85.47.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: users@conserver.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:38:23 -0000 I'm just getting started with conserver. I've pretty much figured out what I want to do, but one thing eludes me. I'm running conserver on a Sun network, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to send a break sequence to halt the OS. There are some examples of break sequences, but I can't get any of them to work. I'm used to sending ] telnet> send break or sending the alternate break sequence of ~b So how do I configure conserver's break seqences to do the same thing? In conserver.cf I currently have "\z" as the sun-std which does nothing but print some odd characters and \377\363: not found and "\r\d~\d^b" which does nothing but print ^b BTW this host is just using the standard break sequence. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thx in advance. Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan From holland@guidancetech.com Thu Apr 29 11:48:43 2004 Received: from puzzle.pobox.com (puzzle.pobox.com [207.8.214.3]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TImfMN022185 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colander (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puzzle.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B0C139282; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jester.pobox.com (jester.pobox.com [64.71.166.114]) by puzzle.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05D3139285; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hackintosh (unknown [144.71.77.200]) by jester.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B213A9; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rich Holland" To: "'Pete Geenhuizen'" , Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:46:31 -0400 Organization: Guidance Technologies, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcQuGcgi4S0CJx7VSrWZxP9iFKa5UQAAGHUA In-Reply-To: <34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Message-Id: <20040429184713.2B213A9@jester.pobox.com> X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: RE: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: holland@guidancetech.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:48:44 -0000 Isn't ^ec-l1 defined by default, i.e. " c l 1" in sequence? It's been a few years but my fingers seem to remember that break sequence.... Rich -- Rich Holland (913) 645-1950 SAP Technical Consultant print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] On > Behalf Of Pete Geenhuizen > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM > To: users@conserver.com > Subject: Help with break command > > I'm just getting started with conserver. I've pretty much figured out > what I want to do, but one thing eludes me. > > I'm running conserver on a Sun network, and for the life of me I can't > figure out how to send a break sequence to halt the OS. > > There are some examples of break sequences, but I can't get any of them to > work. I'm used to sending ] > telnet> send break > or > sending the alternate break sequence of ~b > So how do I configure conserver's break seqences to do the same thing? > > In conserver.cf I currently have "\z" as the sun-std which does nothing > but print some odd characters and \377\363: not found > and > "\r\d~\d^b" which does nothing but print ^b > BTW this host is just using the standard break sequence. > > Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. > > Thx in advance. > Pete > -- > "Unencumbered by the thought process" > --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan > > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@conserver.com > https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users From sommerfeld@east.sun.com Thu Apr 29 11:50:40 2004 Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TIodd6022293 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.9.49]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3TIkLsT010587; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thunk.east.sun.com (thunk.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.66]) by eastmail1bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i3TIlXcc013533; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunk.east.sun.com (8.12.11+Sun/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TIlXNO003140; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200404291847.i3TIlXNO003140@thunk.east.sun.com> From: Bill Sommerfeld To: "Pete Geenhuizen" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 EDT." <34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:33 -0400 Sender: sommerfeld@east.sun.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:50:41 -0000 What sort of sun system? Was "kbd -a alternate" run or was KEYBOARD_ABORT set in /etc/default/kbd before the last reboot? What's in between the conserver process and the sun console? (direct serial line? terminal server? ALOM/system controller?) - Bill From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 12:24:28 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TJOR7c023515 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TJONC8013835; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TJKN1L016309; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.85.47.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31724.192.85.47.2.1083266423.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20040429184713.2B213A9@jester.pobox.com> References: <34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <20040429184713.2B213A9@jester.pobox.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: holland@guidancetech.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:24:29 -0000 Rich, You're right about ^ec-l1. It's defined in the config file as the standard sun break sequence, unfortunately it doen't work. Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Rich Holland said: > Isn't ^ec-l1 defined by default, i.e. " c l 1" in sequence? > > It's been a few years but my fingers seem to remember that break > sequence.... > > Rich > -- > Rich Holland (913) 645-1950 SAP Technical Consultant > print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E >> -----Original Message----- >> From: users-bounces@conserver.com [mailto:users-bounces@conserver.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Pete Geenhuizen >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM >> To: users@conserver.com >> Subject: Help with break command >> >> I'm just getting started with conserver. I've pretty much figured out >> what I want to do, but one thing eludes me. >> >> I'm running conserver on a Sun network, and for the life of me I can't >> figure out how to send a break sequence to halt the OS. >> >> There are some examples of break sequences, but I can't get any of them >> to >> work. I'm used to sending ] >> telnet> send break >> or >> sending the alternate break sequence of ~b >> So how do I configure conserver's break seqences to do the same thing? >> >> In conserver.cf I currently have "\z" as the sun-std which does nothing >> but print some odd characters and \377\363: not found >> and >> "\r\d~\d^b" which does nothing but print ^b >> BTW this host is just using the standard break sequence. >> >> Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thx in advance. >> Pete >> -- >> "Unencumbered by the thought process" >> --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> users@conserver.com >> https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users > From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 12:44:14 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TJiCGP024194 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TJi7s1028213; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TJL41L016325; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.85.47.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38373.192.85.47.2.1083266464.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <200404291847.i3TIlXNO003140@thunk.east.sun.com> References: "Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 EDT."<34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <200404291847.i3TIlXNO003140@thunk.east.sun.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:21:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:44:14 -0000 Oops, forgot to mention this happens to be a Sun280R -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Bill Sommerfeld said: > What sort of sun system? > > Was "kbd -a alternate" run or was KEYBOARD_ABORT set in > /etc/default/kbd before the last reboot? > > What's in between the conserver process and the sun console? (direct > serial line? terminal server? ALOM/system controller?) > > - Bill > From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 12:52:02 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TJq1rf024484 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TJpwC8005715; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TJpv1L017435; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.85.47.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <25932.192.85.47.2.1083268318.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <200404291924.i3TJONGs003485@thunk.east.sun.com> References: "Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:18:30 EDT."<13375.192.85.47.2.1083266310.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <200404291924.i3TJONGs003485@thunk.east.sun.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:52:03 -0000 Hmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong then? How is the sequence defined in the config file? I have break 1 { string "\z"; } Could the terminal type that I'm using have something to do with it? Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Bill Sommerfeld said: > The default -- telnet break request -- just worked out of the box for > me with a couple of the older 64-port annex 3's as well as a digi > ts-16. > > On the client end, I always enter ^E c l 0 to send the default break > sequence. > > - Bill > > > > > From sommerfeld@east.sun.com Thu Apr 29 13:04:23 2004 Received: from brmea-mail-3.sun.com (brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM [192.18.98.34]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TK4LLw024984 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastmail2bur.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.13.40]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3TK3v4U029670; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:03:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thunk.east.sun.com (thunk.East.Sun.COM [129.148.174.66]) by eastmail2bur.East.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id i3TK3uii028567; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thunk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunk.east.sun.com (8.12.11+Sun/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TK3upg003904; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200404292003.i3TK3upg003904@thunk.east.sun.com> From: Bill Sommerfeld To: "Pete Geenhuizen" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:58 EDT." <25932.192.85.47.2.1083268318.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:03:56 -0400 Sender: sommerfeld@east.sun.com X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:04:24 -0000 > Hmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong then? How is the sequence defined in > the config file? I have break 1 { string "\z"; } > > Could the terminal type that I'm using have something to do with it? The conserver.cf I'm using has absolutely no special break configuration; it's using whatever the startup-time default is (sequence 0 being "\z"). I'd suggest a divide-and-conquer approach.. Disable the port in conserver, and connect to the TS directly with a high-port telnet and do a "send break". Whether or not that works will provide useful information... - Bill From trevor@fiatal.net Thu Apr 29 14:08:58 2004 Received: from ramrod.fielden.org (ramrod.fielden.org [64.81.54.17]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TL8u9P027297 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ramrod.fielden.org (Postfix, from userid 5156) id CF2958B95D; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sarcasm.fiatal.net (c-24-6-0-102.client.comcast.net [24.6.0.102]) by ramrod.fielden.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBE58B93F; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiatal.net ([192.168.0.30]) by sarcasm.fiatal.net with ESMTP id <20040429210846.DIW22685.sarcasm@fiatal.net>; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:46 -0700 Message-ID: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:51 -0700 From: Trevor Fiatal User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Geenhuizen , users@conserver.com References: "Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 EDT."<34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <200404291847.i3TIlXNO003140@thunk.east.sun.com> <38373.192.85.47.2.1083266464.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <38373.192.85.47.2.1083266464.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-jf_v0.5 (2004-01-11) on ramrod.fielden.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-149.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,LOCAL_RCVD, RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK,RCVD_IN_SORBS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=2.63-jf_v0.5 X-Spam-Report: * -50 LOCAL_RCVD Received from local machine * -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST From: address is in the user's white-list * 2.5 RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK RBL: Sent directly from dynamic IP address * [24.6.0.102 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS RBL: SORBS: sender is listed in SORBS * [24.6.0.102 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] * -2.0 AWL AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:08:59 -0000 Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > Oops, forgot to mention this happens to be a Sun280R Are you connected to the regular console port, or the RSC console port? Have you redirected console control to the RSC? -T. -- Trevor Fiatal -- trevor@fiatal.net 650.862.3715 (mobile) From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 14:16:08 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.100]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TLG7C3027561 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TLG3Sm017074; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TLEx1L018681; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3595.192.168.0.2.1083273300.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <200404292003.i3TK3upg003904@thunk.east.sun.com> References: "Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:51:58 EDT."<25932.192.85.47.2.1083268318.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <200404292003.i3TK3upg003904@thunk.east.sun.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:15:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: sommerfeld@east.sun.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:16:09 -0000 Well I've discovered one thing, using conserver I can get the system to halt by sending ^Ecl0 at the login prompt, but if I log in it fails and spits out strange characters and ignores the sequence. It looks like the shell is intercepting conserver's break sequence and munging it up. I hope that that isn't the expected behaviour. I have disabled conserver and connected to the box directly with telnet through the terminal server, and sending a break works just fine whether I'm at the login prompt or logged in. FWIW the terminal type on the remote host is set to vt100 and the shell is either borne or korn. Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Bill Sommerfeld said: >> Hmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong then? How is the sequence defined in >> the config file? I have break 1 { string "\z"; } >> >> Could the terminal type that I'm using have something to do with it? > > The conserver.cf I'm using has absolutely no special break > configuration; it's using whatever the startup-time default is > (sequence 0 being "\z"). > > I'd suggest a divide-and-conquer approach.. > > Disable the port in conserver, and connect to the TS directly with a > high-port telnet and do a "send break". Whether or not that works > will provide useful information... > > - Bill > From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 14:34:36 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.103]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TLYYId028198 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TLYUC8027010; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TLUF1L019127; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net> References: "Your message of Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:38:17 EDT."<34048.192.85.47.1.1083263897.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net><200404291847.i3TIlXNO003140@thunk.east.sun.com><38373.192.85.47.2.1083266464.squirrel@www.gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: "Trevor Fiatal" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:34:37 -0000 Nope, not using RSC, just connected to ttya. I can get to the OK prompt doing a telnet to the terminal server and the appropriate port. Using conserver I can get to the OK prompt before I log in, not after I login. Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Trevor Fiatal said: > Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > >> Oops, forgot to mention this happens to be a Sun280R > > Are you connected to the regular console port, or the RSC console port? > > Have you redirected console control to the RSC? > > -T. > > -- > Trevor Fiatal -- trevor@fiatal.net > 650.862.3715 (mobile) > From bryan@stansell.org Thu Apr 29 15:46:24 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TMkOEV000818; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3TMkOKA000817; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:46:24 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: Pete Geenhuizen Message-ID: <20040429224624.GC20883@underdog.stansell.org> References: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net> <3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Trevor Fiatal , users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:46:25 -0000 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > Nope, not using RSC, just connected to ttya. > I can get to the OK prompt doing a telnet to the terminal server and the > appropriate port. > Using conserver I can get to the OK prompt before I log in, not after I > login. here's what i can tell you. regardless of what state your solaris box is in, conserver should always send an IAC/BREAK character sequence over the telnet connection when the "\z" break sequence is used (which is the default for ^Ecl1). nothing that i know of will cause that to change. it's then up to the terminal server telnet daemon to process that sequence and actually do the hardware break on the serial port. now, there might be something going on internal to conserver to cause it to get confused, goof up the IAC/BREAK sequence or something else. From bryan@stansell.org Thu Apr 29 15:54:52 2004 Received: from underdog.stansell.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TMsqa3001117; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i3TMsqKr001116; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:54:52 -0700 From: Bryan Stansell To: Pete Geenhuizen Message-ID: <20040429225452.GD20883@underdog.stansell.org> References: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net> <3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: Trevor Fiatal , users@conserver.com Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:54:53 -0000 ooops...hit the wrong key and off went half of an email...sorry about that. here's the rest... what i'd like to know is, what version are you running (certain versions have had trouble with the encoding of the data on the wire), and can you run conserver in debug mode (just one -D is good for this info) and send it to me? there are particular things i'd like to look at to see if the telnet state was changing (or perhaps a message from the term server said it's state changed), etc. maybe even two -D options would be good...that would show all the data getting written to the file descriptors too...which could verify if conserver is sending the IAC/BREAK sequence properly. another option is to enable a debug mode in telnet and see if anything happens when you log in (a transistion in some telnet state). i believe you just crank up telnet, do a 'toggle options' and then 'open ...'. it'll spew a bunch upon connection and the question is, do you get more when you actually log in. if so, perhaps conserver isn't handling a telnet option negotiation properly, and the break interpretation is getting turned off somehow (whereas a regular telnet does work). this is the only idea i have come up with so far to explain what you've seen. and if you try this, it would be nice to see all the entire sequence. those are my current thoughts. if you can get any of this debugging info (and version info), that would be cool. Bryan From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 16:08:49 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TN8lec001639; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TN8ikF024135; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TN211L021764; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3782.192.168.0.2.1083279721.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20040429224624.GC20883@underdog.stansell.org> References: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net><3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <20040429224624.GC20883@underdog.stansell.org> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:02:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: "Bryan Stansell" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com, Trevor Fiatal Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:08:50 -0000 That's encouraging, any suggestions on what I can do to try to figure out what is going wrong? Do you know what the difference is when Solaris is at the login prompt and when you are actually logged in? Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Bryan Stansell said: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 05:30:16PM -0400, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: >> Nope, not using RSC, just connected to ttya. >> I can get to the OK prompt doing a telnet to the terminal server and the >> appropriate port. >> Using conserver I can get to the OK prompt before I log in, not after I >> login. > > here's what i can tell you. > > regardless of what state your solaris box is in, conserver should always > send an IAC/BREAK character sequence over the telnet connection when the > "\z" break sequence is used (which is the default for ^Ecl1). nothing > that i know of will cause that to change. it's then up to the terminal > server telnet daemon to process that sequence and actually do the > hardware break on the serial port. > > now, there might be something going on internal to conserver to cause it > to get confused, goof up the IAC/BREAK sequence or something else. > From pgeenhuizen@carolina.rr.com Thu Apr 29 16:18:53 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3TNIpC4001997; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homeunix.net (cpe-069-134-048-056.carolina.rr.com [69.134.48.56]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i3TNImkF029980; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gasbuggy.homeunix.net (gasbuggy [192.168.0.100]) by homeunix.net (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3TNEX1L022073; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user pete) by gasbuggy.homeunix.net with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3798.192.168.0.2.1083280473.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> In-Reply-To: <20040429225452.GD20883@underdog.stansell.org> References: <40916EE3.40606@fiatal.net><3613.192.168.0.2.1083274216.squirrel@gasbuggy.homeunix.net> <20040429225452.GD20883@underdog.stansell.org> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Geenhuizen" To: "Bryan Stansell" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Score: -4.2 () BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com, Trevor Fiatal Subject: Re: Help with break command X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 23:18:54 -0000 I'm running 8.1.4, and I just thought of something that might have a baring on this, I compiled it on Solaris 8 and copied the binaries over to another server running Solaris 7. I then run console on a Solaris 8 box connecting to the conserver binary and configuration on the Solaris 7 server. I wonder if that might be the problem. I'll look at that and your other suggestion in the morning. I sure hope that moving everything over to Solaris 8 server solves the problem. Either way I'll let you know what happens and send you as much debugging stuff as I can. Pete -- "Unencumbered by the thought process" --1992-2000 Click and Clack presidential campaign slogan Bryan Stansell said: > ooops...hit the wrong key and off went half of an email...sorry about > that. here's the rest... > > what i'd like to know is, what version are you running (certain versions > have had trouble with the encoding of the data on the wire), and can you > run conserver in debug mode (just one -D is good for this info) and send > it to me? there are particular things i'd like to look at to see if the > telnet state was changing (or perhaps a message from the term server > said it's state changed), etc. maybe even two -D options would be > good...that would show all the data getting written to the file > descriptors too...which could verify if conserver is sending the > IAC/BREAK sequence properly. > > another option is to enable a debug mode in telnet and see if anything > happens when you log in (a transistion in some telnet state). i believe > you just crank up telnet, do a 'toggle options' and then 'open ...'. > it'll spew a bunch upon connection and the question is, do you get more > when you actually log in. if so, perhaps conserver isn't handling a > telnet option negotiation properly, and the break interpretation is > getting turned off somehow (whereas a regular telnet does work). this > is the only idea i have come up with so far to explain what you've seen. > and if you try this, it would be nice to see all the entire sequence. > > those are my current thoughts. if you can get any of this debugging > info (and version info), that would be cool. > > Bryan > From gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com Fri Apr 30 09:48:35 2004 Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f37.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.37]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3UGmYMZ013626 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:35:35 -0700 Received: from 20.137.146.50 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:35:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [20.137.146.50] X-Originating-Email: [gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com From: "Greg Brown" To: users@conserver.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:35:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2004 16:35:35.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[299C7AE0:01C42ED1] X-Spam-Score: -4.273 () BAYES_00,FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: SSH between Conserver host and MRV In-Reach terminal servers X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:48:36 -0000 Dear group, I have been using Conserver within a private network. However, there is a new requirement to monitor a remote console on an outside network, so I am going to use a MRV In-Reach LX-4000 series terminal server with SSH. I am currently using Conserver 7.2.7 with very good results (but know I'll eventually move to 8.1.x when forced to!) I am looking for the correct syntax to make SSH2 connections to an SSH terminal server, like the MRV IR LX-4000. A search of the Conserver mail list archive yeilded this good information: -------------- David Masem masemd@bnl.gov Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:51:38 -0800 (PST) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- We have a Cyclades terminal server that is using ssh only and if you use the following command syntax: ssh -t -2 user_name:ts_port@term.server.name ie. # ssh -t -2 root:7001@terminalserver.dns.name Set your pslave.conf to ssh_socket for all.protocol. - Dave -------------- I am guessing the conserver.cf line for an SSH terminal server should look like this: testconsole:|ssh -t -2 root:7002@mrv1:&:1hab ... if 7002 is the port number for port 2 on terminal server mrv1, and root is the user (should probably be a non-privileged account) specified for ssh2 logins to mrv1. Am I close? Is anyone doing this now? Thanks! Greg Brown CSC San Diego Data Center 858-573-3322 _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://youroffers.msn.com From mccantaj@amgen.com Fri Apr 30 10:14:20 2004 Received: from knife.amgen.com (tls1.amgen-tls.com [138.133.232.138]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3UHEIn5014524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mixer.amgen.com (mixer [138.133.10.123]) by knife.amgen.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3UHEF57023027 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WA-BH1-SEA.immunex.com (WA-BH1-SEA.immunex.com [10.220.226.99]) by mixer.amgen.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i3UHEEGB021226 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WA-BH1-SEA.immunex.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: <16834C6DFFA6004C88DE4507FB8AE544A8D8B2@wa-mb4-sea.amgen.com> From: "McCanta, Jay" To: users@conserver.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C42ED6.8F49E8D7" X-Spam-Score: -4.185 () BAYES_00, HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_MESSAGE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Subject: SSH between Conserver host and MRV In-Reach terminal servers X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:14:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------_=_NextPart_001_01C42ED6.8F49E8D7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I used SSH to an In-Reach. The trouble I had was that the In-Reach gagged and coughed when it received 48 connection requests at one as conserver started up. I ended up scripting some wait, and finally got the thing to limp along. Telnet for me worked better, though less secure. It would be nice if there were a way to tell conserver to limit initializing connections to a rate (e.g. 3/minute). You'll want to upgrade, too, the new execsubst/devicesubst. Makes for a really clean conserver.cf file. Jay McCanta Amgen, Inc. 206-265-8335 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C42ED6.8F49E8D7 Content-Type: text/html Content-Disposition: inline

I used SSH to an In-Reach.  The trouble I had was that the In-Reach gagged and coughed when it received 48 connection requests at one as conserver started up.  I ended up scripting some wait, and finally got the thing to limp along.  Telnet for me worked better, though less secure.

 

It would be nice if there were a way to tell conserver to limit initializing connections to a rate (e.g. 3/minute).

 

You'll want to upgrade, too, the new execsubst/devicesubst.  Makes for a really clean conserver.cf file.

 

Jay McCanta

Amgen, Inc.

206-265-8335

 

 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C42ED6.8F49E8D7-- From gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com Fri Apr 30 10:33:56 2004 Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f6.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.6]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3UHXtVb015210 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:24:46 -0700 Received: from 20.137.146.50 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:24:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [20.137.146.50] X-Originating-Email: [gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gregb_ka6max@hotmail.com From: "Greg Brown" To: mccantaj@amgen.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:24:46 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2004 17:24:46.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[08E0CB60:01C42ED8] X-Spam-Score: -4.273 () BAYES_00,FROM_HAS_ULINE_NUMS X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: SSH between Conserver host and MRV In-Reach terminal servers X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:33:57 -0000 Thanks, Jay! I will keep the simultaneous connection problem in mind, and ask MRV if they have solved this issue. I will take your advise and start testing the version 8 conserver code. Greg >From: "McCanta, Jay" >To: users@conserver.com >Subject: SSH between Conserver host and MRV In-Reach terminal servers >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:14:13 -0700 > >I used SSH to an In-Reach. The trouble I had was that the In-Reach gagged >and coughed when it received 48 connection requests at one as conserver >started up. I ended up scripting some wait, and finally got the thing to >limp along. Telnet for me worked better, though less secure. > > > >It would be nice if there were a way to tell conserver to limit >initializing >connections to a rate (e.g. 3/minute). > > > >You'll want to upgrade, too, the new execsubst/devicesubst. Makes for a >really clean conserver.cf file. > > > >Jay McCanta > >Amgen, Inc. > >206-265-8335 > > > >_______________________________________________ >users mailing list >users@conserver.com >https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From nhruby@uga.edu Fri Apr 30 11:28:25 2004 Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (askew.ucns.uga.edu [128.192.6.44]) by underdog.stansell.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3UISMjk017122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from askew.ucns.uga.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3UISKJP025101; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:28:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (nathan@localhost) by askew.ucns.uga.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i3UISKGY025097; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:28:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: askew.ucns.uga.edu: nathan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:28:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "nathan r. hruby" X-X-Sender: nathan@askew.ucns.uga.edu To: Greg Brown In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -4.901 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Cc: users@conserver.com Subject: RE: SSH between Conserver host and MRV In-Reach terminal servers X-BeenThere: users@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:28:26 -0000 On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Greg Brown wrote: > Thanks, Jay! > > I will keep the simultaneous connection problem in mind, and ask MRV if they > have solved this issue. I will take your advise and start testing the > version 8 conserver code. > Here's my 8.1.x ssh-based console boilerplate for a one-off console: console host.dom.edu { type exec; exec ssh -l username termserver.dom.edu; rw mrgoodtech; master host.dom.edu; } HTH, -n -- ------------------------------------------- nathan hruby uga enterprise information technology services production systems support metaphysically wrinkle-free -------------------------------------------