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Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
when a break is sent across the serial line?

Thanks,
Chris


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Hoe would one get into the boot monitor from a tty-rsc console.  This is
a console over ethernet.  Sending a break via conserver would be of no
use.


On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:38, Sigurd Mytting wrote:
> [Kjell Andresen]
> 
> |  On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, cfowler wrote:
> ||  Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
> ||  when a break is sent across the serial line?
> 
> |  I guess so, but you may change the break sequence on your Solaris
> |  host(s).
> 
> It does.  You can change the break-sequence by altering KEYBOARD_ABORT
> in /etc/default/kbd; by setting it to 'alternate' the break-sequence
> is set to '<RETURN><TIDLE><CONTROL B>'.
> 
> 
> 
> -Sigurd
> -- 
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> Center for Information Technology Services, University of Oslo, Norway
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On 3 Mar 2003, cfowler wrote:

> Hoe would one get into the boot monitor from a tty-rsc console.  This is
> a console over ethernet.  Sending a break via conserver would be of no
> use.

one of the commands from the rsc> prompt is 'break'.
(but you can still use serial A to send break in the normal matter too).
If you want to use RSC as the machine console, you have to set the
eeprom to tell it to use RSC as the system console. We just use
regular console as console and RSC for emergency supplement so
I don't remember the exact syntax, but a google search should turn
it up.

>
>
> On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:38, Sigurd Mytting wrote:
> > [Kjell Andresen]
> >
> > |  On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, cfowler wrote:
> > ||  Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
> > ||  when a break is sent across the serial line?
> >
> > |  I guess so, but you may change the break sequence on your Solaris
> > |  host(s).
> >
> > It does.  You can change the break-sequence by altering KEYBOARD_ABORT
> > in /etc/default/kbd; by setting it to 'alternate' the break-sequence
> > is set to '<RETURN><TIDLE><CONTROL B>'.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Sigurd
> > --
> > Sigurd Mytting,   <URL:http://www.usit.uio.no/> Section for Operations
> > Center for Information Technology Services, University of Oslo, Norway
> --
> "The Law of Leaky Abstractions"
> There is a time where abstractions lead to the inablity to
> fix problems that leak through the abstraction.
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/LeakyAbstractions.html
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The command is:

ok setenv input-device rsc
ok setenv output-device rsc
ok diag-output-to rsc

These older commands will not work in redirecting the console to RSC. 
The following must be used in order for the redirection to take effect:

ok setenv diag-out-console true
ok input-device rsc-console
ok output-device rsc-console

These commands will take effect after the next server reset.
If you are wanting to redirect the console server back to TTYA , you can 
do the following:

ok setenv diag-out-console false
ok setenv input-device keyboard
ok setenv output-device screen


 > Hoe would one get into the boot monitor from a tty-rsc console.  This is
 > a console over ethernet.  Sending a break via conserver would be of no
 > use.

one of the commands from the rsc> prompt is 'break'.
(but you can still use serial A to send break in the normal matter too).
If you want to use RSC as the machine console, you have to set the
eeprom to tell it to use RSC as the system console. We just use
regular console as console and RSC for emergency supplement so
I don't remember the exact syntax, but a google search should turn
it up.



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>Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
>when a break is sent across the serial line?

Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.

This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
seeing a viable solution.

>Chris

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The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
sent but I don't know this for sure.

The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
time.

The only down side is the price tag.

"John R. Jackson" wrote:
> 
> >Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
> >when a break is sent across the serial line?
> 
> Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.
> 
> This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
> seeing a viable solution.
> 
> >Chris
> 
> John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, ITaP/RCS, jrj@purdue.edu
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Mike Daigle wrote:

> The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
> results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
> is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
> and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
> server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
> box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
> power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
> timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
> transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
> sent but I don't know this for sure.
>
> The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
> if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
> DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
> cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
> time.
>
> The only down side is the price tag.

To summarize what some others have said (and add a couple more)

The Digi, old GMP boxes (don't think they are still around), cisco
26xx and 36xx series Async cards, Lantronix (SCS-16xx, SCS-32xx), Bay
Networks (Annex), AlterPath ACS16, and others: all work as they should.

See http://www.conserver.com/consoles/breakinfo.html for
a rather exhaustive list of such boxes that work fine with breaks
(even when power cycled)


	Doug



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Solaris now has the file /etc/default/kbd file where you can turn off 
the break from the console server.

"KEYBOARD_ABORT affects the default behavior of the keyboard abort
 sequence, see kbd(1) for details.  The default value is "enable". The
 optional values are "disable" or "alternate". Any other value is ignored.
 If you choose "alternate" it will affect the serial console drivers  ONLY.
 The keyboard BREAK (sequence and plug/unplug) won't be affected by this.
 If "alternate" is in effect any protocol (PPP, SLIP... etc) should not be
 run over the serial console port."

You can make your changes and reboot the box, or make the changes and 
then run "kbd -a alternate" from command line.

This is support by default for Solaris 8/9, for 2.6 & 7 you need to 
install the patches; 105924-10 and 107589-02.

http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/835-8001/6rutvdvja?a=view

http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2001-August/001235.html

Steve

Mike Daigle wrote:

>The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
>results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
>is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
>and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
>server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
>box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
>power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
>timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
>transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
>sent but I don't know this for sure.
>
>The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
>if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
>DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
>cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
>time.
>
>The only down side is the price tag.
>
>"John R. Jackson" wrote:
>  
>
>>>Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
>>>when a break is sent across the serial line?
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.
>>
>>This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
>>seeing a viable solution.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Chris
>>>      
>>>
>>John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, ITaP/RCS, jrj@purdue.edu
>>_______________________________________________
>>users mailing list
>>users@conserver.com
>>https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users
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Solaris now has the file /etc/default/kbd file where you can turn off the
break from the console server. <br>
 <br>
 "KEYBOARD_ABORT affects the default behavior of the keyboard abort<br>
 &nbsp;sequence, see kbd(1) for details.&nbsp; The default value is "enable". The<br>
 &nbsp;optional values are "disable" or "alternate". Any other value is ignored.<br>
 &nbsp;If you choose "alternate" it will affect the serial console drivers&nbsp; ONLY.<br>
 &nbsp;The keyboard BREAK (sequence and plug/unplug) won't be affected by this.<br>
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be<br>
 &nbsp;run over the serial console port."<br>
 <br>
 You can make your changes and reboot the box, or make the changes and then
run "kbd -a alternate" from command line.<br>
 <br>
 This is support by default for Solaris 8/9, for 2.6 &amp; 7 you need to
install the patches; 105924-10 and 107589-02.<br>
 <br>
 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/835-8001/6rutvdvja?a=view">http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/835-8001/6rutvdvja?a=view</a><br>
 <br>
 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2001-August/001235.html">http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2001-August/001235.html</a><br>
 <br>
 Steve<br>
<br>
Mike Daigle wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid3E64B45C.CF22F336@yorku.ca">
  <pre wrap="">The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
sent but I don't know this for sure.

The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
time.

The only down side is the price tag.

"John R. Jackson" wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
when a break is sent across the serial line?
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.

This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
seeing a viable solution.

    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Chris
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, ITaP/RCS, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jrj@purdue.edu">jrj@purdue.edu</a>
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Digi makes a line of terminal servers that have this feature built in. 
 They are reasonably priced as well.  I use the Portserver II, but 
bought them some time ago, other recently offered products may be a 
better fit.

http://www.digi.com/products/index.jsp
http://www.digi.com/products/terminal%20servers/portServerII.jsp

Mike Daigle wrote:

>The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
>results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
>is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
>and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
>server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
>box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
>power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
>timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
>transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
>sent but I don't know this for sure.
>
>The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
>if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
>DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
>cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
>time.
>
>The only down side is the price tag.
>
>"John R. Jackson" wrote:
>  
>
>>>Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
>>>when a break is sent across the serial line?
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.
>>
>>This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
>>seeing a viable solution.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Chris
>>>      
>>>
>>John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, ITaP/RCS, jrj@purdue.edu
>>_______________________________________________
>>users mailing list
>>users@conserver.com
>>https://www.conserver.com/mailman/listinfo/users
>>    
>>
>
>  
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Digi makes a line of terminal servers that have this feature built in. &nbsp;They
are reasonably priced as well. &nbsp;I use the Portserver II, but bought them
some time ago, other recently offered products may be a better fit.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.digi.com/products/index.jsp">http://www.digi.com/products/index.jsp</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.digi.com/products/terminal%20servers/portServerII.jsp">http://www.digi.com/products/terminal%20servers/portServerII.jsp</a><br>
<br>
Mike Daigle wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid3E64B45C.CF22F336@yorku.ca">
  <pre wrap="">The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
sent but I don't know this for sure.

The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
time.

The only down side is the price tag.

"John R. Jackson" wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Can someone tell me if Solaris 8 and 9 still goes into the boot monitor
when a break is sent across the serial line?
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">Yes, it does.  And what a major pain in the ass that is.

This "feature" has been discussed on this list before, but I don't recall
seeing a viable solution.

    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Chris
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">John R. Jackson, Technical Software Specialist, ITaP/RCS, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jrj@purdue.edu">jrj@purdue.edu</a>
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[ On Tuesday, March 4, 2003 at 09:12:44 (-0500), Mike Daigle wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: Solarus 8/9 Sparc Questions
>
> The only solution which I have found that gives satisfactory
> results is the Nudata(TM) Non Aborting Serial Port Adaptor.  This
> is a little black box that cost about $90. It has smarts onboard
> and allows the BREAKs to be sent from a terminal or terminal
> server port. But it monitors the DTR line, if it drops then the
> box blocks all input, thus if a terminal server sends breaks at
> power down they are blocked when DTR drops first. There is a
> timing issue here but it seems to work, I suspect they have a
> transmission delay built in to catch the fault before the BREAK is
> sent but I don't know this for sure.
> 
> The beauty of it is that we can still use BREAK to halt the system
> if we want. If the terminal server looses power all our Sun's
> DON'T halt. It would also cover off any problems of the line being
> cut and looking like a break as long as DTR is cut at the same
> time.
> 
> The only down side is the price tag.

Indeed.

Time to (again?) post the link to circuit diagram of what I believe is
an equivalent device.

The diagram was originally posted in sun-spots v5n45 by Malcolm Harper,
back before the WWW and most copies are in compressed archives and thus
not indexed by the likes of Google.  A copy can now be found at this
location:

	http://sunsite.kth.se/sun/sun-spots/v5n45.Z

The relevant post has been re-copied to at least these locations
subsequently:

	http://sunsite.bilkent.edu.tr/pub/sun-info/sunspots/v9n20
	http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-sparc/2002/05/16/0000.html

-- 
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On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 16:18, Greg A. Woods wrote:

> Indeed.
> 
> Time to (again?) post the link to circuit diagram of what I believe is
> an equivalent device.
> 
> The diagram was originally posted in sun-spots v5n45 by Malcolm Harper,
> back before the WWW and most copies are in compressed archives and thus
> not indexed by the likes of Google.  A copy can now be found at this
> location:
> 
> 	http://sunsite.kth.se/sun/sun-spots/v5n45.Z


Awesome read.  The schematics talk about what happens when a cable is
unpluged from ttya.  Is this still an issue or the same issue as the
break?


> 
> The relevant post has been re-copied to at least these locations
> subsequently:
> 
> 	http://sunsite.bilkent.edu.tr/pub/sun-info/sunspots/v9n20
> 	http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-sparc/2002/05/16/0000.html
> 
> -- 
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On 4 Mar 2003, Chris Fowler wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 16:18, Greg A. Woods wrote:
>
> > Indeed.
> >
> > Time to (again?) post the link to circuit diagram of what I believe is
> > an equivalent device.
> >
> > The diagram was originally posted in sun-spots v5n45 by Malcolm Harper,
> > back before the WWW and most copies are in compressed archives and thus
> > not indexed by the likes of Google.  A copy can now be found at this
> > location:
> >
> > 	http://sunsite.kth.se/sun/sun-spots/v5n45.Z
>
>
> Awesome read.  The schematics talk about what happens when a cable is
> unpluged from ttya.  Is this still an issue or the same issue as the
> break?
>
yup.
But, if the device is listed at
http://www.conserver.com/consoles/breakinfo.html as passing the test, then
it most likely will not result in a Sun at PROM. We have Cisco 3640s.
You can power cycle them until the cows come home and the Sun's don't
care. But, you can still send a break when you need to.




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DEC(DNPG) Terminal Server - Sun SPARC (db25) cable

This cable will allow the negative signal from the dec terminal server 
upon power fail to excuse the negative voltage send to the Sun machine 
-- thus preventing taking the machine down to the "ok" prompt when power 
fails for terminal server.


DNPG (rj45) to Sun (db25)

1 ---\
2 ----\------------ 2
3 ----+----------- 7
4
5
6 ----------------- 3
7
8


Steve Dimoff

Ki NETWORKS, Inc.



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I've looked back through the archives and noted that a couple people have had
issues getting FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE working with Cyclades Ze cards.  I'm running
conserver 7.2.4 from the ports colletion, and I'm getting the errors:

conserver (63286): lost carrier on machine (/dev/cuaC47)! [Mon Mar 10 19:21:18 2003]
conserver (63286): machine: automatic reinitialization [Mon Mar 10 19:21:18 2003]

If I change conserver to use |tip machine, things are fine.

Has anyone gotten conserver to work with FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE and Cyclades Ze
cards without resorting to using a pipe to tip in conserver.cf?

Thanks...


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This release is mainly bug fixes and a better format of log messages.
I'm still seeing some memory leaks interfacing with the PAM library -
if anyone has any insight, I'd love to hear it (there are some dmalloc
hooks to help debugging).  Here's the list of changes:

version 7.2.6 (Mar 20, 2003):
	- the -b conserver option was mostly broken (since 7.2.0)
	- changed logging format so that all messages are of a similar
	  form
	- fixed bad port number in 'cached previous timeout' message -
	  reported by Dave Stuit <djs@tellme.com>
	- now using pid_t type for better compatibility
	- fixed the RPM and Solaris package to include the man
	  page for conserver.passwd - suggested by R P Herrold
	  <herrold@owlriver.com>
	- added restart option (-HUP) to conserver startup scripts
	- added -B option to client for sending messages to a single
	  server - suggested by Dave Stuit <djs@tellme.com>
	- added --with-dmalloc for memory usage debugging
	- bug with multiple interfaces and -M option not maching hostname
	  in configuration file - patch by Igor Sviridov <sia@nest.org>
	- memory leak using openssl library plugged
	- automatic reinitialization of failed consoles now retries
	  every minute like the manpage says it does - reported by Chris
	  Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>
	- when -R option is used, substring matches on console names
	  from clients only match local console names (and if that
	  fails just remote console names) but ambiguous name list
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Bryan Stansell

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Hi,

I'm trying to figure out how to connect my Mac Titanium to a cisco via
console cable, and of course it's not nearly primitive enough for such
useful tasks.  I've discarded the idea of carrying a VT220 around on my
back, and googled around and found this:

http://macosx.forked.net/bbarchive/forum3/000029.html

So I got me a Keyspan USB to serial converter, and followed the
instructions, and I get the following:

[console:/etc] brni# /usr/local/bin/console routera
console: console: access from your host refused

When I run conserver with the -D flag, I get this as the apparently
relevant messages:

[Tue Mar 11 21:07:51 2003] conserver (541): DEBUG: AccType():
hostname=localhost, ip=127.0.0.1
[Tue Mar 11 21:07:51 2003] conserver (541): DEBUG: AccType():
who=192.168.1.100, trust=a
[Tue Mar 11 21:07:51 2003] conserver (541): DEBUG: AccType(): who=local.,
trust=a
[Tue Mar 11 21:07:51 2003] conserver (541): DEBUG: AccType():
name=localhost


and the "routera" log says:

[console:/etc] brni# more /usr/local/sbin/routera
[-- Console up -- Tue Mar 11 21:05:23 2003]

*Mar  1 12:28:59: %QUICC_ETHER-1-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier.
Transceiver pro
blem?
*Mar  1 12:29:59: %QUICC_ETHER-1-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier.
Transceiver pro
blem?
*Mar  1 12:30:59: %QUICC_ETHER-1-LOSTCARR: Unit 0, lost carrier.
Transceiver pro
blem?
[and so on]


Anyone have any clues on how to make it run happily?



- brni
------

"The large print giveth
 and the small print taketh away."
				Tom Waits


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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -0500, Bernie Mojzes wrote:
> So I got me a Keyspan USB to serial converter, and followed the
> instructions, and I get the following:
> 
> [console:/etc] brni# /usr/local/bin/console routera
> console: console: access from your host refused

from the debug output, it looks like your hostname is 'local.' and your
ip address is '192.168.1.100' but your client is connecting to
'localhost' at '127.0.0.1'.  what you should do is add an 'allowed:
127.0.0.1' to your conserver.cf file to get the client to connect to
the server.  so, now that i've looked at the instructions you followed,
you'll need a conserver.cf file that looks like:

routera:/dev/tty.KeyUSA19191.1:9600p:&:
%%
allowed: 127.0.0.1

then start conserver and you should be able to connect.  looks like the
logfile for 'routera' is already being filled with info, so that should
be good.

Bryan

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Is the keyspan adapter in OS X?  I've had much trouble out of them in
Linux.  Seems like the real uart guts are not coded totally in the
driver.  Could be the same on OS x.


On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 11:10, Bryan Stansell wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -0500, Bernie Mojzes wrote:
> > So I got me a Keyspan USB to serial converter, and followed the
> > instructions, and I get the following:
> > 
> > [console:/etc] brni# /usr/local/bin/console routera
> > console: console: access from your host refused
> 
> from the debug output, it looks like your hostname is 'local.' and your
> ip address is '192.168.1.100' but your client is connecting to
> 'localhost' at '127.0.0.1'.  what you should do is add an 'allowed:
> 127.0.0.1' to your conserver.cf file to get the client to connect to
> the server.  so, now that i've looked at the instructions you followed,
> you'll need a conserver.cf file that looks like:
> 
> routera:/dev/tty.KeyUSA19191.1:9600p:&:
> %%
> allowed: 127.0.0.1
> 
> then start conserver and you should be able to connect.  looks like the
> logfile for 'routera' is already being filled with info, so that should
> be good.
> 
> Bryan
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One of our programmers was diagnosing a problem with a RAID driver on
Linux via serial console when he ran in to an interesting problem:

The driver would dump a bunch of debug output, then stop in the middle.
He'd bang return and about 16 characters of additional output would print.
Each time he banged return, he'd get another li'l chunk of output.

He called me over and I disabled hardware flow-control on the console's
port on the terminal server (Computone RAS2000) and then did a ^Ecd/^Eco
to cycle the port and apply the change.  The rest of the output spooled
out, and I figured there was some sort of problem in the kernel's serial
console code with hardware flow-control.

To confirm the fix, I had him reproduce it again.  The problem recurred
exactly the same way, even with no flow control.

Put flow-control back, cycled the port again and the reset of the output
flowed out.

For now, I've told hom to cycle the port when this happens.

I'm running Conserver 7.2.1 installed via handrolled RPM on a heavily
doctored RH 7.1 system.

Any clues, O Oracles of Serial Niftiness?

Thanks in advance,
  Aaron


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One thing to note here is that when using conserver with terminal
servers, you are not doing a close() and open() when you tell conserver
to reopen.  You are doing a close() and connect().  Depending on the
implementation of ethernet->serial in your terminals erver, it may not
drop DTR when you do this.  It may do nothing.


On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 14:56, Aaron Burt wrote:
> One of our programmers was diagnosing a problem with a RAID driver on
> Linux via serial console when he ran in to an interesting problem:
> 
> The driver would dump a bunch of debug output, then stop in the middle.
> He'd bang return and about 16 characters of additional output would print.
> Each time he banged return, he'd get another li'l chunk of output.
> 
> He called me over and I disabled hardware flow-control on the console's
> port on the terminal server (Computone RAS2000) and then did a ^Ecd/^Eco
> to cycle the port and apply the change.  The rest of the output spooled
> out, and I figured there was some sort of problem in the kernel's serial
> console code with hardware flow-control.
> 
> To confirm the fix, I had him reproduce it again.  The problem recurred
> exactly the same way, even with no flow control.
> 
> Put flow-control back, cycled the port again and the reset of the output
> flowed out.
> 
> For now, I've told hom to cycle the port when this happens.
> 
> I'm running Conserver 7.2.1 installed via handrolled RPM on a heavily
> doctored RH 7.1 system.
> 
> Any clues, O Oracles of Serial Niftiness?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
>   Aaron
> 
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Bryan Stansell wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -0500, Bernie Mojzes wrote:
> from the debug output, it looks like your hostname is 'local.' and your
> ip address is '192.168.1.100' but your client is connecting to
> 'localhost' at '127.0.0.1'.  what you should do is add an 'allowed:
> 127.0.0.1' to your conserver.cf file to get the client to connect to
> the server.  so, now that i've looked at the instructions you followed,
> you'll need a conserver.cf file that looks like:
> 
> routera:/dev/tty.KeyUSA19191.1:9600p:&:
> %%
> allowed: 127.0.0.1

Cool, that gets me farther (since the laptop changes IPs depending on
location, it's difficult to hardcore that in).

It's now connecting...

ah... keyspan has to be plugged in *BEFORE* you run conserver.rc start.
d'oh!

Thanks, all is well.

Bernie

> 
> then start conserver and you should be able to connect.  looks like the
> logfile for 'routera' is already being filled with info, so that should
> be good.
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How does a RJ45 Sun Console like the Netra T1 detect loss of carrier if
there is no DCD line?  Usually I attach my DTR to the console's DCD so
it can detect a disconnect as a key to SIGHUP processes on that tty. Is
that just not a concern?



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Hi,
 
I've just started using conserver (V7.2.6).  Most of our hosts are
Solaris boxes connected to a WTI console server (CMS-16 model).
The conserver.cf file resembles the following:

LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles
TIMESTAMP=1ha
 
holmium   :|telnet wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2103::&.log::1
lithium   :|telnet wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net  2109::&.log::1
radon     :|telnet wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2104::&.log::1
 
%%
 
allow:  10.0.0.0/8
allow:  172.16.0.0/12
allow:  192.168.0.0/16
allow:  p4pnet.net
 
I can successfully connect to a console, but when I send 
a break using "CTRL-e c l 0", it's ignored (though I do
see a "halt sent" message).  I tried setting the break field
to "2", which some postings suggested was an alternate
break sequence for Solaris, but that doesn't work either.
 
Nothing been's done on the Solaris side to disable breaks .
Am I overlooking something obvious.  Thanks ...
 
-Richard
 

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<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've just started 
using conserver (V7.2.6).&nbsp; Most of our hosts are</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Solaris boxes 
connected to a WTI console server (CMS-16 model).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>The conserver.cf 
file resembles the following:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles<BR>TIMESTAMP=1ha</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>holmium&nbsp;&nbsp; :|telnet 
wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2103::&amp;.log::1<BR>lithium&nbsp;&nbsp; :|telnet 
wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net&nbsp; 
2109::&amp;.log::1<BR>radon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :|telnet 
wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2104::&amp;.log::1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>%%</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>allow:&nbsp; 10.0.0.0/8<BR>allow:&nbsp; 
172.16.0.0/12<BR>allow:&nbsp; 192.168.0.0/16<BR>allow:&nbsp; 
p4pnet.net</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can successfully 
connect to a console, but when I send </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>a break using 
"CTRL-e c l 0", it's ignored (though I do</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>see a "halt sent" 
message).&nbsp; I tried setting the break field</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>to "2", which some 
postings suggested was an alternate</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>break sequence for 
Solaris, but that doesn't work either.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nothing been's done 
on the Solaris side to disable breaks .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Am I overlooking 
something obvious.&nbsp; Thanks ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=091234519-20032003><FONT face=Arial 
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Hi,

I've attached my "solution" to this, which I sent to the list some time
back.

You're probably better off using direct connections instead of piping
telnet, though.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:07:25PM -0800, Richard Zinar wrote:
> 
>    Hi,
> 
> 
> 
>    I've just started using conserver (V7.2.6).  Most of our hosts are
> 
>    Solaris boxes connected to a WTI console server (CMS-16 model).
> 
>    The conserver.cf file resembles the following:
> 
>    LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles
>    TIMESTAMP=1ha
> 
> 
> 
>    holmium   :|telnet wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2103::&.log::1
>    lithium   :|telnet wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net  2109::&.log::1
>    radon     :|telnet wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2104::&.log::1
> 
> 
> 
>    %%
> 
> 
> 
>    allow:  10.0.0.0/8
>    allow:  172.16.0.0/12
>    allow:  192.168.0.0/16
>    allow:  p4pnet.net
> 
> 
> 
>    I can successfully connect to a console, but when I send
> 
>    a break using "CTRL-e c l 0", it's ignored (though I do
> 
>    see a "halt sent" message).  I tried setting the break field
> 
>    to "2", which some postings suggested was an alternate
> 
>    break sequence for Solaris, but that doesn't work either.
> 
> 
> 
>    Nothing been's done on the Solaris side to disable breaks .
> 
>    Am I overlooking something obvious.  Thanks ...
> 
> 
> 
>    -Richard

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Hello,

Just wanted to say thanks for making/maintaining wonderful software.
I went through some problems to be able to SEND break signal to some Sun
machines through conserver + piped telnet + a Cisco 2511 access server,
but finally solved it. Thought I'd share my solution. In conserver.cf,
put:

BREAK3=^]send brk\n

The ^] needs to be HEX 0A (in vi: control + alt gr + 9 on my Sun). Of
course, one can always send control + alt gr + 9 on the keyboard
directly and type send brk, but I prefer to have everything set up to be
available through ^ec<foo> which is described by the help that is showed
when running console.

I also need to log some more stuff (like which users attaches/deattaches
from consoles, the time they do this (when attaching/deattaching)), but
I suppose I'll figure that out. If anyone has some patches/tips in
regards to logging more than the default, let me know.

Regards,

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On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:07:25PM -0800, Richard Zinar wrote:
> holmium   :|telnet wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2103::&.log::1
> lithium   :|telnet wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net  2109::&.log::1
> radon     :|telnet wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2104::&.log::1

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:30:15PM +0100, Anders Nordby wrote:
> You're probably better off using direct connections instead of piping
> telnet, though.

what's being referenced here is the internal socket communications that
conserver can do.  to get that, you just need to have a config file
like:

holmium   :!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net:2103:&.log::1
lithium   :!wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
radon     :!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net:2104:&.log::1

then a '^ec0' or '^ec1' will be able to send a break (since there's no
external telnet "in the way").  good luck!

Bryan
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Thanks Bryan.  That did indeed do the trick ...

Richard


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On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:07:25PM -0800, Richard Zinar wrote:
> holmium   :|telnet wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2103::&.log::1
> lithium   :|telnet wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net  2109::&.log::1
> radon     :|telnet wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2104::&.log::1

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:30:15PM +0100, Anders Nordby wrote:
> You're probably better off using direct connections instead of piping
> telnet, though.

what's being referenced here is the internal socket communications that
conserver can do.  to get that, you just need to have a config file
like:

holmium   :!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net:2103:&.log::1
lithium   :!wti3.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
radon     :!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net:2104:&.log::1

then a '^ec0' or '^ec1' will be able to send a break (since there's no
external telnet "in the way").  good luck!

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Hi,
 
I'm trying to get conserver (V7.2.6) working in our environment,
I have run into the following problem - as soon as I start conserver,
the consoles I'm using it to manage come down almost immediately:
 
[-- Console up -- Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 2003]
[-- Console down -- Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 2003]
 
I also noticed I'm unable to telnet into our console servers (e.g.,
wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net) while conserver is running.  I wouldn't 
expect to be able to access individual ports on the console server while
conserver is controlling them, but it's not clear to me why the console
server itself should become inaccessible.
 
The conserver.cf file looks as follows:
 

   LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles
   TIMESTAMP=1ha
 
   holmium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2103:&.log::1
   nitrogen  : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2104:&.log::1
   barium    : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2105:&.log::1
   fermium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2106:&.log::1
   hassium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&.log::1
   uranium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2108:&.log::1
   terbium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
   thurium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2110:&.log::1
   cerium    : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&.log::1
 
   brie      : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2103:&.log::1
   radon     : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2104:&.log::1
   cheddar   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2105:&.log::1
   edam      : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&.log::1
   titanium  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
   beaufort  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&.log::1
   blarney   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2112:&.log::1
   iridium   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2113:&.log::1
   tantalum  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2115:&.log::1
   astatine  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2116:&.log::1
 
Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong?  The console
servers are WTI CMS-16 units.  Thanks ...
 
Richard
 
 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>I'm trying to get 
conserver (V7.2.6) working in our environment,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>I have run into the 
following problem - as soon as I start conserver,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>the consoles I'm 
using it to manage come down almost immediately:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>[-- Console up -- 
Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 2003]<BR>[-- Console down -- Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 
2003]</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>I also noticed I'm 
unable to telnet into our console servers (e.g.,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003>wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net) while conserver is 
running.&nbsp; I wouldn't </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>expect to be able to 
access individual ports on the console server while</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>conserver is 
controlling them, but it's not clear to me why the console</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>server itself should 
become inaccessible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>The conserver.cf 
file looks as follows:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; TIMESTAMP=1ha</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
holmium&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2103:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; nitrogen&nbsp; : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2104:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; barium&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2105:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
fermium&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2106:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; hassium&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
uranium&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2108:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; terbium&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
thurium&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2110:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; cerium&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&amp;.log::1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
brie&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2103:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; radon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2104:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
cheddar&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2105:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; edam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; titanium&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; beaufort&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
blarney&nbsp;&nbsp; : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 
:2112:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; iridium&nbsp;&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2113:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; tantalum&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2115:&amp;.log::1<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; astatine&nbsp; : 
!wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2116:&amp;.log::1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>Any suggestions on 
what I might be doing wrong?&nbsp; The console</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=037002717-25032003>servers are WTI 
CMS-16 units.&nbsp; Thanks ...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=037002717-25032003>Richard</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 12:51, Richard Zinar wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm trying to get conserver (V7.2.6) working in our environment,
> I have run into the following problem - as soon as I start conserver,
> the consoles I'm using it to manage come down almost immediately:
>  
> [-- Console up -- Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 2003]
> [-- Console down -- Tue Mar 25 09:26:30 2003]
>  
> I also noticed I'm unable to telnet into our console servers (e.g.,
> wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net) while conserver is running.  I wouldn't 
> expect to be able to access individual ports on the console server while
> conserver is controlling them, but it's not clear to me why the console
> server itself should become inaccessible.

Maybe reverse tcp is using up all the pseudo connections.

>  
> The conserver.cf file looks as follows:
>  
> 
>    LOGDIR=/var/log/consoles
>    TIMESTAMP=1ha
>  
>    holmium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2103:&.log::1
>    nitrogen  : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2104:&.log::1
>    barium    : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2105:&.log::1
>    fermium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2106:&.log::1
>    hassium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&.log::1
>    uranium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2108:&.log::1
>    terbium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
>    thurium   : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2110:&.log::1
>    cerium    : !wti11.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&.log::1
>  
>    brie      : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2103:&.log::1
>    radon     : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2104:&.log::1
>    cheddar   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2105:&.log::1
>    edam      : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2107:&.log::1
>    titanium  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2109:&.log::1
>    beaufort  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2111:&.log::1
>    blarney   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2112:&.log::1
>    iridium   : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2113:&.log::1
>    tantalum  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2115:&.log::1
>    astatine  : !wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net :2116:&.log::1
>  
> Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong?  The console
> servers are WTI CMS-16 units.  Thanks ...
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
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Hi,

I'm running conserver 7.2.1 attached to a cyclades terminal server and 
several sun servers. I'm always having fun sending breaks to them, and 
because of the infrequency of the times, I can't recall which one worked.

I need to halt a sun server to the obp, but at a level that allows me to 
resume kernel operations. I'm trying this first, I may need to get a crash 
dump too, which I wasn't able to get last time because I issued break 
sequence L3 last time I think??

Help with this would be much appreciated, if no joy with responses soon I'll 
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^El0 


will send a break.


On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 20:07, Shal Halka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running conserver 7.2.1 attached to a cyclades terminal server and 
> several sun servers. I'm always having fun sending breaks to them, and 
> because of the infrequency of the times, I can't recall which one worked.
> 
> I need to halt a sun server to the obp, but at a level that allows me to 
> resume kernel operations. I'm trying this first, I may need to get a crash 
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> sequence L3 last time I think??
> 
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> Thanks,
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0 sends the break I needed, lets me type 'go' to resume.. sorry to waste 
your time, thanks anyway :)

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Have you tried commenting one of the conserver.cf port entries, so that it's 
out of conserver control, and directly telneting to the port:

# telnet wti10.admin.sc.p4pnet.net 2105

If this doesn't work, then conserver may not be the problem, as the 
underlying utility is preventing connections. Mt two cents for initial 
troubleshooting I guess :) If telnet works, we need to troubleshoot further.

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