From bryan@conserver.com Thu Aug 20 00:11:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: conserver-announce@localhost Delivered-To: conserver-announce@localhost Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C44943E0E; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:11:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ziggybow.stansell.org Received: from ziggybow.stansell.org ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (ziggybow.stansell.org [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UYOnXQIInad; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.107] (unknown [76.14.25.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bryan@stansell.org) by ziggybow.stansell.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADE503FF5F; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:11:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=conserver.com; s=s0001; t=1597882305; bh=Sxz5Ps74TgjQ4KkZqHAh/1HMWJk6ogBWEepX+EMGldo=; h=From:Subject:To; b=JMITiURrfs9SqYSyBCPvG9C7NWkzpoYz1r7ITBS4uUbJIgNoit67z47ItHA8RCV/4 4KP/eRCV/Tlrn8uqNpiMfF4yBukFcEMBH9Y7aqbPfIqJxP/Rw2Cke/PauKsKaL3Ng3 Wt+wRlCBkCAT1ront0gDrZgOx5HUs2YQ1dtOCLJSqr8SRjnX/lqwnrRqyz14PJ40z1 gCdbNj5+6BVkBMsPeZEsu1dzd8OumQsBTyCVRo0RsQ1ZAbrRPDfsRcwbISqjrrMngB N7Oc1Mk33LhqIk5oYv2afPv+3Vf4nSc5Lt3C0hB84BlJlI2IliFecuHGE002mC+GxE jKjkySAkFsOFg== X-SES-CONFIGURATION-SET: logging From: Bryan Stansell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Subject: The end of the mailing lists...time to embrace GitHub Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:11:45 -0700 To: Conserver Users , Conserver Announce X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-BeenThere: announce@conserver.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Conserver Announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 00:11:46 -0000 Hi all, It=E2=80=99s time to shut down the mailing lists. I know some folks = will find this sad or unfortunate (my initial thoughts around this = provoked similar feelings), but with GitHub being the main distribution = point and the Issues feature already in use, it looks like a natural = transition. As of now, the users mailing list is limited to my posts, = just like the announce list has been. The Discussions feature is currently beta, but should be fine for the = limited activity of the old mailing list. I like the ability to control = what notifications you get (down to the thread), for example, and see it = as a nice feature over a general mailing list. I do recognize that = certain mailing list features will be lost, but behind the scenes there = is an amazing amount of SPAM/attempts to try and abuse the mailing lists = happening that is just exhausting to deal with. So while I know this = could cause some heartache, in the end I believe things will be better = overall. I=E2=80=99m also planning on transferring the email archive into the = Discussions section once their API is available and robust enough to do = such things (the hints in the feedback forum imply such possibilities in = the future). The existing mailing list archives will continue to be = available indefinitely either way. You do not need to worry about unsubscribing from the lists either - = I=E2=80=99ll be removing the lists from my system soon (I need to update = the web pages to reflect this change as well). Feel free to continue to reach out directly to me over mail at = bryan@conserver.com or through GitHub! Bryan=